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To: koan who wrote (46183)6/18/2013 6:58:24 AM
From: TimF  Respond to of 85487
 
Your just king of the non sequiturs aren't you.

A job with low pay by American standards, that you are not forced to work (not even by circumstances in most cases, the majority of minimum wage earners are not the sole source of income for a household) in no way resembles slavery, and in fact would be a dream situation for most people throughout history or around the world today.

As for the rich getting richer - I'm not very motivated by envy. I don't consider that to be a bad thing.



To: koan who wrote (46183)6/18/2013 8:30:52 AM
From: sm1th  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
That is such nonsense.

<<If you force businesses to pay what you consider a living wage, then you price a lot of people out of jobs.>>
If you believe that the minimum wage has no impact on employment levels, why stop at $9. Why not make the minimum wage $100/hour. Then everybody with a job would be rich.



To: koan who wrote (46183)6/18/2013 10:35:37 AM
From: Brumar89  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 85487
 
That was actually an argument made by Democrats for slavery. They said it was better than the wage slavery of capitalism.

George Fitzhugh (November 4, 1806 - July 30, 1881) was an American social theorist who published racial and slavery-based sociological theories in the antebellum era. He argued that "the negro is but a grown up child" [1] who needs the economic and social protections of slavery. Fitzhugh decried capitalism as spawning "a war of the rich with the poor, and the poor with one another" – rendering free blacks "far outstripped or outwitted in the chase of free competition." Slavery, he contended, ensured that blacks would be economically secure and morally civilized.
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Sociology for the South[ edit] Sociology for the South, or, the Failure of Free Society (1854) was George Fitzhugh's most powerful attack on the philosophical foundations of free society. In it, he took on not only Adam Smith, the foundational thinker of capitalism, but also John Locke, Thomas Jefferson, and the entire liberal tradition. He argued that free labor and free markets enriched the strong while crushing the weak. What society needed, he wrote, was slavery, not just for blacks, but for whites as well. "Slavery," he wrote, "is a form, and the very best form, of socialism."

Fitzhugh believed that slavery reduced the pressure on the poor and lower classes; in other words, he advocated slavery for poor whites as well as blacks.

Cannibals All![ edit] Cannibals All!, or Slaves Without Masters (1857) was a critique further developing the themes that Fitzhugh had introduced in Sociology for the South. Both the book's title and its subtitle were phrases taken from the writing of Thomas Carlyle, the Scottish social critic and a great hero to Fitzhugh's generation of proslavery thinkers. The aim of his book, Fitzhugh claimed, was to show that "the unrestricted exploitation of so-called free society is more oppressive to the laborer than domestic slavery."

Cannibals All! was a sharp criticism of the system of " wage-slavery" found in the north. Fitzhugh's ideas were based on his view that the "negro slaves of the South" were considerably more free than those trapped by the oppression of capitalist exploitation. His idea to rectify social inequality created by capitalism was to institute a system of universal slavery, based on his belief that "nineteen out of every twenty individuals have...a natural and inalienable right to be slaves."

Fitzhugh's ideas in Cannibals All!, while often used in the defense of anti-abolition, have a more socially egalitarian undertone which attempted to remedy inequalities in "Property of man." His ideas of reform could be seen in terms of a non-Marxist socialist ideology. The extremes advocated by Fitzhugh's writing led even some of his allies to denounce his bold claims. Fitzhugh was also an advocate of women's rights. In Cannibals All!, he asserts that women deserve the right to vote.

en.wikipedia.org



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