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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (101195)6/18/2013 1:54:18 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217545
 
obama is a comedian

[the chinese language on obama pic translates to "say no to oppressor"]

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President Obama says NSA secret data gathering is ‘transparent’


President Barack Obama defended top secret National Security Agency spying programs as legal in a lengthy interview and called them transparent — even though they are authorised in secret.

“It is transparent,” Obama told PBS’s Charlie Rose in an interview to be broadcast late on Monday. “That’s why we set up the FISA court,” he added, referring to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that authorises two recently leaked programs: one that gathers US phone records and another that is designed to track the use of US-based internet servers by foreigners with possible links to terrorism.

The location of FISA courts is secret. The sessions are closed. The orders that result from hearings in which only government lawyers are present are classified.

“We’re going to have to find ways where the public has an assurance that there are checks and balances in place ... that their phone calls aren’t being listened into; their text messages aren’t being monitored, their emails are not being read by some big brother somewhere,” Obama said.

A live chat of Edward Snowden is monitored by pro-Snowden rally organiser Tom Grundy on a screen at his home in Hong Kong. Photo: Reuters

Obama was in Northern Ireland for a meeting of leaders of allied countries. As he arrived, the latest series of Guardian articles drawing on the leaks claimed that British eavesdropping agency GCHQ repeatedly hacked into foreign diplomats’ phones and emails with US help, in an effort to get an edge in such high-stakes negotiations.

Obama’s announcement followed an online chat on Monday by Edward Snowden, the former NSA systems analyst contractor who leaked documents revealing the scope of the two programs to The Guardian and The Washington Post newspapers. He accused members of Congress and administration officials of exaggerating their claims about the success of the data gathering programs, including pointing to the arrest of would-be New York subway bomber Najibullah Zazi in 2009.

Snowden said Zazi could have been caught with narrower, targeted surveillance programs — a point Obama conceded in his interview without mentioning Snowden.

“We might have caught him some other way,” Obama said. “We might have disrupted it because a New York cop saw he was suspicious. Maybe he turned out to be incompetent and the bomb didn’t go off. But at the margins we are increasing our chances of preventing a catastrophe like that through these programs.”

Obama also told Rose he wanted to encourage a national debate on the balance between privacy and national security — a topic renewed by Snowden’s disclosures.

The US government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me
Obama repeated earlier assertions that the programs were a legitimate counterterror tool and that they were completely noninvasive to people with no terror ties. He also said he has created a privacy and civil liberties oversight board.

“I’ll be meeting with them. And what I want to do is to set up and structure a national conversation, not only about these two programs, but also the general problem of data, big data sets, because this is not going to be restricted to government entities,” he said.

Congressional leaders have said Snowden’s disclosures have led terrorists to change their behaviour, which may make them harder to stop — a charge Snowden discounted as an effort to silence him.

“The US government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me,” he said. He added the government “immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home” by labelling him a traitor, and he indicated he would not return to the US voluntarily.

The Guardian announced that its website was hosting an online chat with Snowden, in hiding in Hong Kong, with reporter Glenn Greenwald receiving and posting his questions. The Associated Press couldn’t independently verify that Snowden was the man who posted replies to questions.

In answer to the question of whether he fled to Hong Kong because he was spying for China, Snowden wrote, “Ask yourself: if I were a Chinese spy, why wouldn’t I have flown directly into Beijing? I could be living in a palace petting a phoenix by now.”

He added later, “I have had no contact with the Chinese government.”

Congressional leaders have accused Snowden of treason for revealing once-secret surveillance programs two weeks ago. The NSA programs collect records of millions of Americans’ telephone calls and internet usage as a counterterror tool. The disclosures revealed the scope of the collections, which surprised many Americans.

Snowden dismissed being called a traitor by former Vice President Dick Cheney, who served under President George W. Bush and made the allegations in an interview on Fox News on Sunday. Cheney was echoing the comments of both Democrats and Republican leadership in Congress.

A bus passes by a poster of Edward Snowden at Hong Kong's financial Central district. Photo: Reuters

“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honour you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him ... the better off we all are,” Snowden said.

Snowden defended his actions and said he considered what to reveal and what not to reveal. He said he did not reveal any US operations against what he called legitimate military targets but instead showed that the NSA is hacking civilian infrastructure like universities and private businesses.

“These nakedly, aggressively criminal acts are wrong no matter the target. Not only that, when NSA makes a technical mistake during an exploitation operation, critical systems crash,” he said, though he gave no examples.

“Congress hasn’t declared war on the countries — the majority of them are our allies — but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people,” he said. “And for what? So we can have secret access to a computer in a country we’re not even fighting?”

Snowden was referring to Prism, one of the programs he disclosed. The program sweeps up internet usage data from all over the world that goes through nine major US-based internet providers. The NSA can look at foreign usage without any warrants and says the program doesn’t target Americans.

Snowden explained his claim that from his desk, he could “wiretap” any phone call or email — a claim top intelligence officials have denied. “If an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc. analyst has access to query raw SIGINT (signals intelligence) databases, they can enter and get results for anything they want,” he wrote in the answer posted on the Guardian site. “Phone number, email, user id, mobile phone handset id (IMEI), and so on — it’s all the same.”

The NSA did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has said that the kind of data that can be accessed and who can access it is severely limited.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (101195)6/18/2013 1:56:53 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 217545
 
even as some are not exactly amused

am wagering the outings shall depict more outrageous as we go forward

scmp.com

Britain's spying claims outrage Russia, Turkey and South AfricaRussia, Turkey and South Africa expressed outrage on Monday over revelations that Britain and the United States spied on foreign delegates at G20 meetings in London in 2009.

The Turkish government summoned Britain’s charge d’affaires to explain a newspaper report that London put Finance Minister Mehmet Simsek under surveillance during the talks.

Moscow meanwhile expressed concern that US spies had intercepted communications made by then president Dmitry Medvedev while he was in Britain, and some Russian lawmakers warned it could harm US-Russian ties.

British Prime Minister David Cameron said he would not comment on intelligence matters, but the revelations were likely to be embarrassing as he hosts G8 leaders at a summit in Northern Ireland.

Aerial photograph shows Britain's Government Communications Headquarters in Cheltenham. Photo: Reuters

The claims are based on documents leaked by former US spy Edward Snowden, who has already invoked the ire of Washington by lifting the lid last week on a massive US internet surveillance system.

According to The Guardian newspaper, Britain’s GCHQ electronic eavesdropping agency used “ground-breaking intelligence capabilities” to monitor communications at two G20 meetings in April and September 2009.

Delegates were allegedly tricked into using specially prepared internet cafes which allowed British spies to intercept and monitor email messages and phone calls through BlackBerry devices.

GCHQ was also able to track when delegates were contacting each other and the agency targeted certain officials, including the finance minister of NATO ally Turkey.

Ankara responded with outrage, contacting the British ambassador and summoning the deputy head of mission to demand an explanation, a foreign ministry diplomat said.

Earlier, the ministry said that if the report was true, “such an action by an ally country is unacceptable”.

“This will constitute a scandal in terms of relations between the two countries if any truth is found in the allegations,” it said.

The British Foreign Office confirmed that its deputy head of mission had met Turkey’s director general for intelligence and security at the foreign ministry in Ankara, but gave no details.

Officials travelling to Northern Ireland with Russian President Vladimir Putin meanwhile expressed concern over claims that US agents spied on his predecessor while he was in London.

“As a country which takes steps to protect its own information, we are worried,” said Russia’s G8 negotiator Alexei Kvasov.

The reaction in Moscow was less diplomatic.

“It’s a scandal!” fumed Alexei Pushkov, the head of the lower house of parliament’s foreign affairs committee, on Twitter.

Senator Igor Morozov, a member of the international affairs committee of the upper house of parliament, said it risked hurting ties with Washington.

“In this situation how can we trust the current announcements of US President Barack Obama, who is talking about a new ‘reset’ (of relations)?” he told the RIA Novosti news agency.

Cameron earlier told Sky News television: “We never comment on security or intelligence issues, and I am not about to start now.”

The Guardian said that South African computers were also singled out for special attention, prompting Pretoria to warn against the abuse of privacy and “basic human rights”.

“We have solid, strong and cordial relations with the United Kingdom and would call on their government to investigate this matter fully with a view to take strong and visible action against any perpetrators,” the foreign ministry said.

The leaked documents suggest that orders to gather intelligence on G20 delegates came from a senior level within the government of Britain’s then prime minister Gordon Brown.

A briefing paper prepared for GCHQ director Iain Lobban, dated January 9, 2009, said the agency’s remit was “to ensure that intelligence relevant to Her Majesty’s government’s desired outcomes for its presidency of the G20 reaches customers at the right time and in a form which allows them to make full use of it”.

Snowden, currently in hiding in Hong Kong, has vowed to fight any attempt by the United States to extradite him, as it pursues a criminal investigation into the internet surveillance leaks.

In a live question-and-answer session on The Guardian’s website on Monday, he said there were more revelations to come about the US National Security Agency’s access to internet data.



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (101195)6/18/2013 1:59:52 AM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217545
 
the youngster speaks, and addresses point by point, to the point and w/o waffling

scmp.com

Edward Snowden speaks out on webchat | South China Morning Post
On leaking the US secrets

The US government, just as they did with other whistleblowers, immediately and predictably destroyed any possibility of a fair trial at home, openly declaring me guilty of treason and that the disclosure of secret, criminal, and even unconstitutional acts is an unforgivable crime.

I pointed out where the NSA has hacked civilian infrastructure such as universities, hospitals, and private businesses because it is dangerous. Congress hasn't declared war on the countries - the majority of them are our allies - but without asking for public permission, NSA is running network operations against them that affect millions of innocent people.

Unfortunately, shortly after assuming power, he [Obama] closed the door on investigating systemic violations of law, deepened and expanded several abusive programs, and refused to spend the political capital to end the kind of human rights violations like we see in Guantanamo, where men still sit without charge.

Seeing someone in the position of James Clapper - the Director of National Intelligence - baldly lying to the public without repercussion is the evidence of a subverted democracy. The consent of the governed is not consent if it is not informed.



On Dick Cheney

Further, it's important to bear in mind I'm being called a traitor by men like former vice-president Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead.

Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are.



On his own safety

If the Obama administration responds with an even harsher hand against me, they can be assured that they'll soon find themselves facing an equally harsh public response.

All I can say … is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.

This country is worth dying for.

On why he chose Hong Kong

I had to travel with no advance booking to a country with the cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained. [HK] provided that. Iceland could be pushed harder, quicker, before the public could have a chance to make their feelings known, and I would not put that past the [administration].

On American tech companies

Their denials went through several revisions as it become more and more clear they were misleading and included identical, specific language across companies. As a result of these disclosures … we're finally beginning to see more transparency and better details about these programs… They are legally compelled to comply and maintain their silence in regard to specifics of the program, but that does not comply them from ethical obligation. If for example Facebook, Google, Microsoft, and Apple refused to provide this cooperation with the Intelligence Community, what do you think the government would do? Shut them down?



On the effectiveness of Prism

Since these programs began … after September 11th, how many terrorist attacks were prevented SOLELY by information derived from this suspicionless surveillance that could not be gained via any other source? Then ask how many individual communications were ingested to acheive that, and ask yourself if it was worth it. Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it.



On the quality of the data he has in his procession

The reality is: if an NSA, FBI, CIA, DIA, etc analyst has access to query raw SIGINT databases, they can enter and get results for anything. Phone number, email, user id, cell phone handset id (IMEI), and so on.



How to protect your information

Encryption works. Properly implemented strong crypto systems are one of the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it.



On how much he used to earn

The statement I made about earnings was that $200,000 was my "career high" salary. I had to take pay cuts in the course of pursuing specific work. Booz was not the most I've been paid.



On media coverage of the story

Initially I was very encouraged. Unfortunately, the mainstream media now seems far more interested in what I said when I was 17 or what my girlfriend looks like rather than, say, the largest program of suspicionless surveillance in human history.



His final remarks

Thanks to everyone for their support, and remember that just because you are not the target of a surveillance program does not make it okay. The US Person / foreigner distinction is not a reasonable substitute for individualized suspicion, and is only applied to improve support for the program. This is the precise reason that NSA provides Congress with a special immunity to its surveillance.