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To: Road Walker who wrote (46369)	6/19/2013 5:56:47 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Respond to of 85487

"Where is the libertarian utopia? Why doesn't it exist if its compatible with human nature?" there's a need for limit gov, if I have a contract with you I might not paid you for your work/services then it comes down to who has the biggest and most weapons. "Doesn't work. People in the private sector like power also, yet they give it up to government. " the beauty of capitalism, the evil power crazy people are divided between gov and business unlike with communism where all the evil people go into gov. and they don't give it up to the gov the gov takes it away, people like this

To: Road Walker who wrote (46369)	6/20/2013 11:45:30 AM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

No Libertarian governments anywhere on earth. They won't work.That is a great point I have seen a few others make and then I forget it. You do a nice job of explaining how we always organize ourselves with layers of governments; since becoming civilized. School boards, planning commissions, cities, counties, states, federal government and United Nations. Taxes are the price for civilization. As governments or social organization are a given, the huge dividing line in history, many seem to not understand, is when we moved from social organization by dictators or tribal chiefs, to republics, rule by the people, for the people. And anyone who thinks rule by corporations is better than rule by democracy i.e. themselves, is very confused.