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To: koan who wrote (226455)	6/23/2013 2:23:20 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 541368

Busybodies will always be with us. I prefer to harness their talent for productive good in our community, rather than having them run open loop. They will be there whether you direct their skills or not. I prefer to direct them. I got a lot of interesting material out of our meeting. I was quite pleased with it. On top of that, we helped to create more of a community, since we'll all be getting together socially. And many of the busybodies are busybodies because they are lonely.

To: koan who wrote (226455)	6/23/2013 2:49:52 PM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541368

What time in history have people had unfettered access to neighborhoods in which they have no stake? And when and where was the time and place where people had no consequence for activity that violated local norms? Some people just are not very socialized... group living requires caring about how one's behavior impacts others. We have a boomerang kid who was using his mom's house as a rock band practice venue. You know there is not a lot of romance in hearing someone elses' kid learning an instrument while amped up to 120 db. In general, I'm a live and let live person. Neighborhood watch should not be about ratting out people for smoking/growing pot and I would not support that kind of busybodiness. We chose a neighborhood with CC&Rs which I'm suspecting you wouldn't like. There are clear advantages - if someone rents a house out and starts letting run down - I want enough voluntary (in the sense that everyone knows about it before hand) rules to keep my neighbor from ruining my property value. In my old neighborhood there was a guy who collected Studebakers - okay a little odd, but he also had a rusted 50 foot tall ham radio tower, also a little odd. There were no CC&Rs so there was no basis to hassle him over it even though it was a bit of an eyesore. You also had people who rented and let their lawn grow too long, not trimming their bushes. All of this was legal and without recourse. The new neighborhood - this would not stand. There are plenty of dumpy neighborhoods and people are free to live in those if they want to live in squalor. If a would be thief comes to a neighborhood where people don't want drifters roaming freely amongst their homes - they might want to look elsewhere.