To: koan who wrote (226510 ) 6/24/2013 3:54:27 PM From: epicure Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541339 My point was that if your really want to change the world, you should make your spiel as positive to people as possible- especially to people who don't agree with you. You seem to be designing yours to offend. If you don't want to appeal to people, you don't want to- but don't just go on and on about your daydreams for the world, and then go around antagonizing everyone, and not expect people to notice. This thread has very clear rules. It's NOT a right wing thread. I'm not banning people because I'm angry with them- I'm trying to preserve the thread from the boring endless whiny fighting that occurs when you mix right and left. It just bores me to tears. If you want to have an endless circle jerk with people on the other side of the political spectrum, we all know the threads you can go to. And the arguments there are as stale as year old fruitcake- because nothing every changes, not even the insults. I can look in on people I argued with 10 years ago, and see them saying the same old shit. So it's not banning at the drop of a hate- it is a carefully constructed environment where right wingers are never ever welcome. I'm not trying to hide that, or trap them- and you'd have to be an idiot or a troll to wander in here accidentally- except for those few poor folks who follow a post over here, and don't know where they are. They have my sympathy. And I have tried to work with a couple of them if I thought their intentions weren't evil. And this was the view from the CENTER originally. So it's ironic you'd say it's ironic I'm not a wildeyed lefty. I don't ban lefties for disagreeing with me. If I did I'd have banned almost everyone. But I don't like crazy personal insults and people who feel they are so much better than everyone else, that they can say whatever they like. That would be a mistake with me. I like organizations- whether they are government organizations (which you like, generally), or private organizations, like a neighborhood watch. It's odd you'd love unions as much as you do (considering all the negatives that come with them) and yet you'd be so upset by neighbors coming together to watch out for each other. Don't you find that strange?