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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: zeta1961 who wrote (134430)	6/26/2013 12:33:17 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I've actually been monitored; not with all the numbers I call thrown in a giant dumpster along with 300 million other folks, but watching a guy climbing up the pole to plant a bug, and then climbing up the pole to remove it a week or more later. FBI thought my sister and girl friend were giving shelter to en.wikipedia.org wrong So what did I do? Well, I had a small marijuana plant I dug up and drove across town to give to a friend. Saw a lot of cops on the way. They prolly started watching him, too. LMAO. I don't worry about the government. They are supposed to follow some sort of protocol if they want to watch da Rat, a opposed to collecting all the Rat's dropping along with everybody else. I also try to be careful, and I'd do something like use disposable untraceable phones to set up meetings in the middle of an open field. It's the people I don't know about, who don't have to follow laws, who concern me. I'm in the Grange; the Grange tried for GMO labeling... is Monsanto watching me? Monsanto hired a Blackwater subsidiary to probe anti GMO groups digitaljournal.com Are the Kochs watching me? Is Maxxam, since I was arrested in the Headwaters Forest fight? Is China or Russia or Iran hacking me, or my utility company? I sure as hell trust the feds and Cal more than any of them. I hope to hell we are hacking China, etc. Who hacked climategate? Now that's something important. China Hacks U.S. Defense Department Dean Cheng May 29, 2013 at 11:50 am blog.heritage.org = "I feel betrayed in a big way." I feel vindicated. I never thought the Eye of Sauron was poked out MAINWAY is the codename for a database maintained by the United States' National Security Agency (NSA) containing metadata for hundreds of billions of telephone calls made through the four largest telephone carriers in the United States: AT&T, SBC, BellSouth (all three now called AT&T), and Verizon. [1] The existence of this database and the NSA program that compiled it was unknown to the general public until USA Today broke the story on May 10, 2006. [1] It is estimated that the database contains over 1.9 trillion call-detail records. [2] According to Bloomberg News, the effort began approximately seven months before the September 11, 2001 attacks. [3] As of June 2013, the database stores metadata for at least five years. [4] en.wikipedia.org

To: zeta1961 who wrote (134430)	6/26/2013 8:07:04 AM
From: RetiredNow	1 Recommendation Recommended By zeta1961 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I'll withold my judgement on Snowden's hero status until we find out whether he's helping the Russians and Chinese or not. But the fact we can't ignore is that he unveiled some very disturbing things our government is doing. I think we all have to ask ourselves whether it is possible for freedom and Democracy to live within a heavily surveilled state apparatus, where our government jails or kills whistleblowers and uses the IRS to intimidate political parties. Are we watching the end of freedom and Democracy as we know it? I don't know, but the signs are ominous. THings were bad under Bush Jr, where he did whatever he wanted to, legal or not. But now under Obama, we do the same things and worse, but they just happen to be legal. Is this what we get with a President who is a Constitutional lawyer? Just someone who more thoroughly covers his tracks from a legal standpoint? Shit. Where are the leaders who fight for our Constitutional rights? I don't think they exist anymore outside of Ron Paul, who's now retired.