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To: i-node who wrote (723400)	6/29/2013 5:31:14 PM
From: tejek	1 Recommendation Recommended By bentway Respond to of 1577542

This comment is absurd. When DNA testing is done, it is not performed on an entire garment or body part. It is performed on a SAMPLE, and by definition, a small sample. You don't just put a shirt in a machine and have all the DNA fall out on the floor. While PCR can allow a small sample of DNA to be tested, if no DNA happens to be present from where the sample is extracted, you can't just mysteriously devine DNA from that sample. Zimmerman: DNA Conclusions The DNA results do not support Zimmerman’s claim that Martin assaulted him. Zimmerman claimed that Martin punched him in the nose stunning and knocking him to the ground. Martin mounted him as he lay flat on his back, and started hitting him repeatedly in the face with his fists. Then he grabbed both sides of Zimmerman’s head and began slamming the back of his head into repeatedly into the cement. When Zimmerman started screaming for help, Martin attempted to smother him by placing his hands over Zimmerman’s mouth and nose. If this story were true, one would expect to see injuries on Zimmerman’s face and the back of his head, but there are no injuries, with the exception of a scab on the right side of the bridge of his nose and two little cuts or lacerations to the back of his head. These two superficial cuts bled copiously as scalp wounds tend to do. The blood flow from those wounds is consistent with Zimmerman’s head in an upright position leaning forward and inconsistent with his claim that he was lying on his back. One also would expect injuries to Martin’s hands, but there is only one small abrasion on the ring finger of his left hand where a ring normally would be worn. (Martin did not wear a ring) Martin’s only bleeding wound was from the gunshot to his heart. Now let’s take a look at the DNA evidence. Left and Right Lower sleeves and Cuffs of Martin’s Shirt and Sweatshirt No blood detected on any of them. Martin’s DNA was detected on all of them. There were no DNA results foreign to Martin, with the exception of the left cuff and lower sleeve of the shirt, but the data was insufficient to include anyone due to its limited nature. Martin’s Fingernail Cuttings No DNA results foreign to Martin were found. Note: The absence of Zimmerman’s DNA on the fingernail cuttings and the absence of injuries to Martin’s hands consistent with the beating Zimmerman described, as well as the absence of blood and Zimmerman’s DNA on the lower sleeves and cuffs of Martin’s shirt and sweatshirt leads me to conclude that Zimmerman’s story about Martin almost beating him to death is a lie. In fact, other than Zimmerman’s story, I do not see any evidence that Martin hit Zimmerman. He was certainly injured, but there are other possible causes for those injuries. Martin’s Shirt (ME-8) Bloodstain A: matches Zimmerman Bloodstain B: matches Martin Stain C no blood and no DNA Bloodstain D: mixed DNA profile likely containing both Martin and Zimmerman Bloodstain E: matches Martin Martin’s Hooded Sweatshirt (ME-12) Blood matches Martin. Zimmerman’s DNA not present Conclusion The only place where Zimmerman’s blood and DNA are present is Martin’s shirt, which he was wearing underneath the hooded sweatshirt. Bloodstain A is all Zimmerman Bloodstain D is a mixed DNA sample containing Martin and Zimmerman’s DNA. Pending review of color photographs of the two bloodstains on Martin’s shirt containing Zimmerman’s blood, I am inclined to believe that they are the result of any of the following: (1) dripped blood from Zimmerman’s wounds as he leaned forward above Martin’s body either before or after the shot, or (2) transferred blood from Zimmerman’s hands as he handled Martin’s body. frederickleatherman.com

To: i-node who wrote (723400)	6/29/2013 7:47:57 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 1577542

The sad thing is you are not even wrong. Just irrelevant. They swabbed Martin's hands. Only his DNA was found. Ditto with all of the visible stains on his clothing except for one that indicated the DNA from two individuals but it was too small to further identify who those individuals were. No Zimmerman DNA was detected anywhere. Which is not consistent with 20 to 30 punches to the nose, attempted smothering and head banging. Unless one or both participants were wearing full body condoms. If things shook out like Zimmerman claims, they are several places you can expect to find Zimmerman's DNA. Maybe some won't test positive for one reason or another. But none of them is an OJ level of coincidence.