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To: Brumar89 who wrote (38378)	6/30/2013 8:33:12 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

A fool lives by constant feints & evasion, one cannot read the Ghost Dance & not see the exact parallel of how visions & prophecy in religion are a direct human response to apocalyptic times , to deny seeing anything similar would be typical of you. This response by the human psychology to draw from the 'divine" is purely darwinistic, a survival mechanism if ever there was one. Like the Persian theology & Cyrus being influenced first by the rabble in Israel whos brothers they saved , we are sure to depend on your fairytale grasp of historical timelines. Or the ability to draw any intelligent analysis of what is really in operation here, why belief systems evolve just as human beings did.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (38378)	7/1/2013 4:42:48 AM
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Now i have contempt for native Americans? Reread the post, then take a step backwards & admit you are a dumbass trying to evade the reality , then its all up from there. You were shown without any doubt this week that most all you believe in is not much more than aboriginal myths equal of the native americans ghost dance , no Moses in Egypt, no David or Solomon, the entire thing as real as any tribe in the Amazon making up stories about their spirit world. About as silly as Moses inventing "Thou shalt not Kill" & the rest of the mock up nonsense, you really believe this nonsense? Snap your fingers idiot, study history, Moses did not even exist & the rest of it pure bullshit too.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (38378)

7/1/2013 5:02:06 AM

From: 2MAR$

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What would be the difference between those primitive OT prophets in Israel in apocalpytic times in their desperattion & the later ritual prophet Ghost Dance revivalist movement of the native Americans ? Not much we see clearly, both were fundamentally facing anihilation, this is when religion gets born, very naturalistic .
en.wikipedia.org

The Ghost Dance ( Caddo: Nanissáanah, [1] also called the Ghost Dance of 1890) was a new religious movement which was incorporated into numerous Native American belief systems. According to the prophet Jack Wilson (Wovoka)'s teachings, proper practice of the dance would reunite the living with the spirits of the dead and bring peace, prosperity, and unity to native peoples throughout the region. [2] The basis for the Ghost Dance, the circle dance, is a traditional ritual which has been used by many Native Americans since prehistoric times, but this new form was first practiced among the Nevada Paiute in 1889. The practice swept throughout much of the Western United States, quickly reaching areas of California and Oklahoma. As the Ghost Dance spread from its original source, Native American tribes synthesized selective aspects of the ritual with their own beliefs. This process often created change in both the society that integrated it, and in the ritual itself.

Jack Wilson, the prophet formerly known as Wovoka, was believed to have had a vision during a solar eclipse on January 1, 1889. It was reportedly not his first time experiencing a vision directly from God; but as a young adult, he claimed that he was then better equipped, spiritually, to handle this message. Jack had received training from an experienced holy man under his parents' guidance after they realized that he was having difficulty interpreting his previous visions. Jack was also training to be a "weather doctor", following in his father's footsteps. He was known throughout Mason Valley as a gifted and blessed young leader. Preaching a message of universal love, he often presided over circle dances, which symbolized the sun's heavenly path across the sky

Jack Wilson claimed to have left the presence of God convinced that if every Indian in the West danced the new dance to "hasten the event", all evil in the world would be swept away, leaving a renewed Earth filled with food, love, and faith. Quickly accepted by his Paiute brethren, the new religion was termed "Dance In A Circle". Because the first European contact with the practice came by way of the Sioux, their expression Spirit Dance was adopted as a descriptive title for all such practices. This was subsequently translated as "Ghost Dance". [2]