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To: Sam who wrote (227322)	7/6/2013 10:14:07 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 540831

"poor put-upon southerners, invaded by those vindictive Northerners " Ye olde War of Northern Aggression, which, strangely, began with an attack on the North. Mything the Point of "The War of Northern Aggression" by 8ackgr0und N015e Let's be clear. Calling the Civil War, "The War of Northern Aggression" means it was a war of choice started by the North. If Saddam Hussein were still alive, I am sure he'd be calling the Iraq War "The War of American Aggression" and he'd have a pretty good case for doing that. But the South? Not so much... let's start with the fact y'all call your Great-Grandpa and his kin "Rebels" because they were actively engaged " in rebellion against the United States," as someone who was there (cough Lincoln cough) so bluntly put it. dailykos.com

To: Sam who wrote (227322)

7/6/2013 10:17:45 AM

From: Bread Upon The Water

Respond to of 540831

Sure, poor put-upon southerners, invaded by those vindictive Northerners who just didn't understand that special relationship between master and slave, and just had to disrupt it--

Exactly right. Especially the vindictive part--had Lincoln lived maybe it could have turned out differently, but doubtful if one lived in a part of the South that Sherman's army marched thru.

What BS. You are just being blind to the reality of a slave society and what it does to people. A lot like "Doc" Cartright when he invented the "disease" of drapetomania, lol.

It is my contention that the slave society would have fallen of its own weight eventually and morphed into something better than what did happen. This of course is uncertain, but I don't know you can contend ,with a an apparent certainty, that what we have today, and endured to get there, is an infinitely better outcome.