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To: 2MAR$ who wrote (38790)	7/7/2013 1:15:21 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Ah, you've found a box to put me in. most others can appreciate classical thought What's funny is YOU pretending to appreciate classical Christian thought. Have you forgotten you're supposed to despise folks like Augustine and Aquinas: Message 28349236 Message 28628363 Message 28628740 The special dispensation that Baptists dont have to draw upon anything but baby Jesus might inform them of all they need to know? I don't know about any special dispensation, but I do look only to the NT to tell me what Christianity is supposed to be. There's no celibate priesthood there, no pope, etc. I respect Catholics belief, they're fellow Christians but they don't have a monopoly on Jesus. Like Hari Krishnas, Sikhs & the Taliban ? Whoops, you calling Christians the Taliban is normal. But aren't liberals supposed to respect Hindus and Sikhs? Classsical history was & is a standard part of those earlier men's education as pointed out with George Washington's conscious purpose emulating the acts of an early famous Roman Dictator , Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus. Now you're mixing up classical Christian thought with classical Greco-Roman. Washington did emulate him and Washington's admirers pointed this out and called him our Cincinnatus, but Washington did this on his own. He wasn't trying to consciously copy Cincinnatus. He also wasn't classically educated and had the equivalent of an elementary education.

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (38790)	7/7/2013 1:28:22 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 69300

I think I've discovered where this pretense of admiring Augustine comes from. I see you got it from ignorant internet trolls. uncommondescent.com ..... St. Augustine is often cited by theistic evolutionists (see here) as a theologian whose mindset was hospitable to the modern neo-Darwinian theory of evolution. Unfortunately, theistic evolutionists who make these claims are guilty of the same carelessness as Dr. David Bentley Hart: they haven’t read St. Augustine’s own writings on the subject. Instead, they’ve read essays and scholarly commentaries instead of sitting down and reading the texts themselves. If they did that, they would discover that St. Augustine expressly taught that the world was 6,000 years old ( City of God, Book XII, chapter 12); that creatures of all kinds were created instantly at the beginning of time; that Adam and Eve were historical persons; that Paradise was a literal place; that the patriarch Methusaleh actually lived to the age of 969; that there was a literal ark, and that the Flood covered the whole earth; and that he vigorously defended all of these doctrines against skeptics in the fourth century (yes, they existed back then, too), who scoffed at them. The curious reader can confirm what I have read by consulting St. Augustine’s City of God Book XIII and Book XV. Oh yeah, your characterization of the City of God as an ESSAY .... it took Augustine 13 years to write, takes serious readers about 6 months to read, is divided into 22 books. No, you haven't read Augustine, especially not as a chld wondering where the name of a nearby city came from.