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To: Don Hurst who wrote (48143)	7/8/2013 7:53:46 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 85487

LOL Don - one of the excuses for Obama foreign policy idiocy is poor intelligence. For Obama it is an excuse for idiocy - for Bush it becomes a lie . Everything about Obama is a lie - that so many fools believe daily.

To: Don Hurst who wrote (48143)	7/8/2013 8:07:36 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

What is your explanation for this "unilateral backing of Obama" you seem to find? The D's reelected O despite the fact he has launched the the biggest fascist assault on civil liberties in this country during peacetime in US history. he has codified the worst of Bush II's atrocities. The man sits down to breakfast and muses over a kill list knowing full well he is going to snuff out innocent mwn, women and children. "Certainly, until the very end of his presidency, George W. Bush used his power for targeted killings very sparingly," said Chris Woods, who leads the "Covert Drone War" project at the Bureau of Investigative Journalism. "We're talking about a significant killing program now [under President Obama]. 2,000 targeted killings." huffingtonpost.com === on civil liberties is further right than Bush, or any other President for that matter: Not long after the story into the National Security Administration's spying programme broke, US president Barack Obama insisted the issues raised were worthy of discussion: "I welcome this debate and I think it's healthy for our democracy. I think it's a sign of maturity because probably five years ago, six years ago we might not have been having this debate." In fairly short order, a YouTube compilation appeared, showing Obama debating with himself as he matured. Flitting back and forth between Obama the candidate and the Obama the president, we see the constitutional law professor of yore engage with the commander-in-chief of today. Referring to the Bush White House, candidate Obama says: "This administration acts like violating civil liberties is the way to enhance our security. It is not." Referring to the NSA surveillance program, President Obama says: "My assessment and my team's assessment was that they help us prevent terrorist attacks." Candidate Obama says of the Bush years: "This administration also puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide." President Obama retorts: "You can't have 100% security and also then have 100% privacy and zero inconvenience. We're going to have to make some choices." The notion that a president's record might contradict a presidential candidate's promise is neither new nor particular to Obama. And we should hope that politicians evolve as their careers progress and new evidence and arguments come to light. What makes these clips so compelling is that they show not evolution, but transformation. On this issue, at least, Obama has become the very thing he was against. They're not gaffes. These are brazenly ostentatious flip-flops. And regardless of how much they cost him, Obama has clearly no intention of taking them back. ++++++++ On wiretaps and drone strikes, it’s time for liberals to accept that Obama is worse than BushOn questions of “US national security”, from wiretaps to Gitmo to drone strikes, Barack Obama has shown his thinking is even less unenlightened than that of the junior Bush. And liberals everywhere newstatesman.com +++++ On the war on drugs: Judging From Prosecutions, Obama Is 80 Percent Worse Than Bush on Medical Marijuana ++++ ACLU: Obama Worse Than Bush On Civil Liberty Issues \| WBNS ... ++++ Wall St? Even Democratic Party Loyalists Starting to Wake Up to the Fact that Obama Is As Bad As Bush … Or Worse Obama Is Worse than Bush In Favoring the Super-Elite, Bailing Out the Big Banks, Protecting Financial Criminals, Targeting Whistleblowers, Keeping Government Secrets, Trampling Our Liberties and Starting Military Conflicts In New Countries http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-is-worse-than-bush-in-favoring-the-super-elite-bailing-out-the-banks-and-protecting-financial-criminals/5327103

To: Don Hurst who wrote (48143)	7/8/2013 8:13:16 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 85487

This should sum it up for you. washingtonsblog.com We’ve previously documented that Obama has redistributed wealth to the super-rich and trampled civil liberties even more than Bush. That Obama has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all other presidents combined … but fewer financial crimes than President Reagan, Clinton or either of the Bush presidents. Redditor n3uromanc3r adds the following round up of Obama’s track record. Obama extends Patriot Act without reform – [1] articles.nydailynews.com Obama sends more troops to Afghanistan – [2] news.bbc.co.uk Obama signs NDAA 2011 – [3] forbes.com Obama appeals the Federal Court decision that “indefinite detention” is unconstitutional– [4] businessinsider.com Obama uses his Presidential Drone “Kill List” to kill American cleric without trial -[5] nytimes.com; and his 16 year old son in a separate strike – [6] washingtonpost.com Continues to approve drone strikes that kill thousands of innocent civilians including women and children in Pakistan, Yemen, and other countries that do not want the US intervening – [7] telegraph.co.uk Protects Bush’s war crimes as State Secrets – [8] [9] [10] salon.com eff.org washingtonindependent.com Support for countries use of child soldiers -[11] thecable.foreignpolicy.com Appointing Monsanto, GMO company with multiple unsafe practice violations, lobbyist to head the FDA – [12] washingtonpost.com Continuing prohibition and Federal attacks on legal marijuana dispensaries – [13] liveleak.com Protects AG Holder from Congressional “Fast and Furious” gun walking investigations – [14] abcnews.go.com Bringing no charges against bank executives that misused bailouts – [15] nytimes.com Engaging in a war on whistleblowers – [16] dailycaller.com Grants immunity to CIA torturers – [17] guardian.co.uk Quadrupling the numbers of warrantless wiretapping since Bush era – [18] breitbart.com Continuing military tribunals he vowed to end – [19] articles.cnn.com Failing to close gitmo – [20] washingtonpost.com Allowed innocent man to die at gitmo – [21] huffingtonpost.com Violating the War Powers Act of 1973 – [22] nytimes.com Signed Anti-protest law – [23] rt.com Deported more immigrants than any other president – [24] politifact.com Increasing Drug War budget – [25] whitehouse.gov Defends raids on Amish raw milk farmers – [26] reason.com Granting the FBI access to private electronic communication without warrant – [27] nytimes.com Building an even more intrusive TSA – [28] presstv.ir Says it’s legal to track individuals by pinpointing their cellphone without warrant – [29] businessinsider.com Renewing FISA and NSA’s unregulated spying and banking of all wireless communication– [30] [31] truth-out.org democracynow.org Appeals SCOTUS ruling that warrantless installation of tracking devices on cars is unconstitutional – [32] thenewamerican.com Share this: