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To: Brumar89 who wrote (725739)7/11/2013 12:22:51 AM
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Sure. Just like whites rioted when OJ Simpson walked free after killing two white people.

Oh. Wait a minute.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (725739)7/11/2013 9:19:13 AM
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Ex-Sanford police chief: Zimmerman probe 'taken away from us'

By Eliott C. McLaughlin, CNN July 11, 2013 --
edition.cnn.com

Ex-Sanford police chief says investigation was hijacked...

'They just wanted an arrest'...



Ex-police chief speaks about Zimmerman


STORY HIGHLIGHTS

  • Bill Lee says he refused to arrest George Zimmerman just to placate public
  • Lee: Department didn't release 911 tapes because they could have hampered probe
  • Lee defends "sound" investigation and says race never played a role in probe


  • (CNN) -- The George Zimmerman investigation was hijacked "in a number of ways" by outside forces, said the former police chief of Sanford, Florida.

    Bill Lee, who testified Monday in Zimmerman's second-degree murder trial, told CNN's George Howell in an exclusive interview that he felt pressure from city officials to arrest Zimmerman to placate the public rather than as a matter of justice.

    "It was (relayed) to me that they just wanted an arrest. They didn't care if it got dismissed later," he said. "You don't do that."

    When Sanford police arrived on the scene on February 26, 2012, after Zimmerman fatally shot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, they conducted a "sound" investigation, and the evidence provided no probable cause to arrest Zimmerman at the scene, he said.

    It had nothing to do with Florida's controversial "Stand Your Ground" law, he said; from an investigative standpoint, it was purely a matter of self-defense.

    Zimmerman told police he killed Martin after the teen attacked him. While the evidence at the time corroborated that claim, the ex-chief said, Lee's lead investigator made a recommendation that Zimmerman be charged with manslaughter.

    It was a matter of protocol, Lee said. Arresting Zimmerman based on the evidence at hand would have been a violation of Zimmerman's Fourth Amendment rights, he said. Thus, the Sanford police presented a "capias request" to the state's attorney, asking that the prosecutor determine whether it was a "justifiable homicide," issue a warrant for arrest or present the case to a grand jury.

    "The police department needed to do a job, and there was some influence -- outside influence and inside influence -- that forced a change in the course of the normal criminal justice process," Lee said. "With all the influence and the protests and petitions for an arrest, you still have to uphold you oath."

    "That investigation was taken away from us. We weren't able to complete it," he said.


    One example involved the 911 tapes, in which neighbors implored dispatchers to send police as a voice in the background screamed for help.

    The Sanford police intended to release the tapes once the probe was over, Lee said, because you can't publicize evidence amid an investigation.


    Instead, the mayor told him on March 16 the tapes had been released to Martin's family and the public. The family was asked to help identify voices, Lee said, but if police were in charge of the investigation, they wouldn't have presented evidence to a group.

    "It should be done individually so there's no influence on the other people in the room," he said. "Then, there's no questions that can be brought up about how (an identification) was obtained or whether it was influenced."

    Releasing the evidence to the public was problematic, as well, because it created the potential for someone to concoct a "story about what they observed when they really didn't observe it," he said.

    Martin family attorney Jasmine Rand said that she doesn't believe that playing the tapes to a room full of people "makes any difference to the outcome of the case."


    "We have to remember that that was played for the family in a private room because they were hearing the last moments of their son's life as he cried for help," Rand told CNN's Erin Burnett on Wednesday night. "And I think Sybrina Fulton (Martin's mother) got up and walked out of that room. She didn't sit in there and talk to everybody, because she had a visceral reaction when she heard her son yell for help and she couldn't help him because she knew he was dead."

    Lee was placed on paid leave March 22, 2012, after the Sanford City Commission expressed a lack of confidence in him. The same commission rejected his resignation in a 3-2 vote a month later, with dissenting commissioners questioning the fairness of Lee's losing his job.

    Two months later, Lee was sacked. City Manager Norton Bonaparte said in a news release, "The police chief needs to have the trust and respect of the elected officials and the confidence of the entire community."


    Lee believes lack of confidence did play a role in his dismissal, he told CNN, but he also believes Bonaparte faced political pressure and terminated him "without cause," which was permitted under his employment contract.

    "I upheld my oath," Lee said. "I'm happy that at the end of the day I can walk away with my integrity."

    Rand told CNN that Lee lost his job because he "failed to conduct a fair and impartial investigation."


    "I personally thank God that he doesn't have the ability to fulfill his vision to uphold an arcane practice that has no place in our legal system," Rand said.

    Asked whether he would do things differently given the opportunity, Lee, a 30-year veteran of law enforcement, said there always are things he could change in hindsight, but he stands by the investigation. At every turn in the 40-minute interview with CNN's Howell, Lee doggedly defended his investigators, saying race never played a role in any decision and that his officers "conducted an unbiased review."

    Investigators knew letting Zimmerman walk free for 46 days was an unpopular decision -- and they took abuse for it -- "but they performed professionally. That's the mark of a strong police department."

    Lee took issue with the media casting his department as apathetic or lackadaisical in the case.

    "A lot of the information that was given out as fact was misinformation," he said. "It was reported in some media that we didn't conduct an investigation for two weeks, but yet in that same media they would show a photograph of a crime scene with crime scene tape, with patrol cars and blue lights and investigators on the scene."

    Lee shrugged off the notion that he was hired to clean up racism and other problems in the department. His goal upon becoming chief was to improve professionalism and trust, and he set several goals, all of which were met during his 10-month tenure, he said.

    One of his greatest regrets, he said, is that the Zimmerman investigation ultimately shattered his childhood dream to be police chief of the community where he was raised.

    "It's a dream of a vision that is going to be unrealized," he said. "I'm at peace with it on most days. I'm a man of faith. But it stings."



    To: Brumar89 who wrote (725739)7/11/2013 9:57:45 AM
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    DC Democrats Pass $12.50 Minimum Wage Law… Wal-Mart Cancels Three Store Openings
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    Gateway Pundit ^ | 7-10-2013 | Jim Hoft

    “For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.” Isaac Newton’s Law of Motion

    Washington DC Democrats passed a bill that would require retailers to pay workers at least $12.50 per hour.

    Within hours of the decision Wal-Mart announced it was canceling three store openings in the area.

    Nice work, Democrats. WTOP reported:

    The bill now goes to Mayor Vincent Gray for his consideration. The 8-5 vote was short of the votes needed to override a veto from the mayor.

    In a statement, Wal-Mart says the Council has forced the retailer’s hands and it will abandon three planned projects in the District.

    “We will not pursue Skyland, Capitol Gateway, and New York Avenue and will start to review the financial and legal implications on the three stores already under construction. This was a difficult decision for us – and unfortunate news for most D.C. residents – but the Council has forced our hand,” the written statement says.

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    To: servo1969

    Oh, but they feel good about themselves. They’re “good people” because they support a “living wage”.

    Doesn’t matter what actually results from their support - the real goal was accomplished - they feel good about themselves.



    2 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:24:05 AM by MrB


    To: servo1969


    This is what they're trying to put in in NYC. How can Liberals go their entire lives so completely clueless about basic economics?

    3 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:25:09 AM by YankeeReb
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    To: servo1969
    Glad this worked out this way.

    Those Walmarts were going to end up screwed, it is good this happened up front and that Walmart got out of them.

    Now to decide on where to send them...



    4 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:25:14 AM by Cringing Negativism Network
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    5 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:27:10 AM by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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    To: YankeeReb
    They are educated well beyond their intelligence..........



    6 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:27:51 AM by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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    To: YankeeReb
    THIS is all part of the great humanitarian concern Liberals have for the poor and it’s part of their drive for full employment!!! :)



    7 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29:10 AM by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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    How can Liberals go their entire lives so completely clueless about basic economics?It's called pre-operational egocentrism. It's a stage of development found in most toddlers.

    8 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29:37 AM by 60Gunner (Fight with your head high, or grovel with your head low.)
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    To: servo1969
    As I understand it, it is not “large retailers like Wal-Mart” but in fact tailored so it is ONLY Wal-Mart. There is a Target store already in the District, no? And there is zero mention of them falling under this bill.

    And I haven’t heard any grousing from the other minimum wage workers in DC, no “hey, what about us? We want $12.50 too.” Now why might that be? /rhetorical

    Good for Wal-Mart! Tell them to stick it.



    9 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:29:57 AM by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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    To: servo1969
    Why not set the minimum wage at $20? Now, that’s a living wage.



    10 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:30:06 AM by Former Proud Canadian (The IRS--a softer Gestapo)
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    In a statement, Wal-Mart says the Council has forced the retailer’s hands and it will abandon three planned projects in the District.

    “We will not pursue Skyland, Capitol Gateway, and New York Avenue and will start to review the financial and legal implications on the three stores already under construction. This was a difficult decision for us – and unfortunate news for most D.C. residents – but the Council has forced our hand,” the written statement says

    **

    Killing opportunity for all ...what Democrats do best!



    11 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:30:11 AM by LibsRJerks
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    Oh, but they will never get blamed for the cutback in jobs; the evil anti-union Walmart will be demonized.



    12 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:31:20 AM by 3catsanadog (I love my country; I don't like its government)
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    To: servo1969
    I don’t know of any plans for WalMart in Detroit but they did just open a Meijer on the corner of Woodward and 8 Mile bringing some 400 jobs. (Meijer is a regional store comparable to Walmart)

    That tells me that despite Detroit’s problems, economic freedom wins out over economic oppression.



    13 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:31:39 AM by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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    Inner city residents ought to protest. Two family members could get jobs, get married, stay together and earn $16 per hour combined. Their kids could get jobs and save for college.

    Oh, well, no ...we can’t have that.



    14 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:33:49 AM by LibsRJerks
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    15 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:35:09 AM by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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    To: servo1969
    A lot of congressional staff is going to love this law up until the time they get replaced with unpaid interns.



    16 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:36:12 AM by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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    To: servo1969
    Particularly stupid because with the extreme cost of living in D.C., market forces probably would have eventually forced Walmart to pay something close to $12.50 to get competent help anyway.



    17 posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:37:25 AM by Buckeye McFrog