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To: Thomas M. who wrote (227811)7/16/2013 6:29:35 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540756
 
"not to mention Zimmerman's stellar character"

In jail for about 15 months cuz of perjury.
huffingtonpost.com
Fought cop.
Domestic violence.
usnews.nbcnews.com

Not my idea of stellar character.



To: Thomas M. who wrote (227811)7/16/2013 7:50:02 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540756
 
I think you are speculating as to how things went down based on the defendant's version of the facts.

No, there was a credible witness and there was a bunch of physical evidence, not to mention Zimmerman's stellar character and Trayvon's poor character.

The character issue(S) are/were subjective in nature. A wash at trial. The other factual issues are inconclusive--or not least beyond a reasonable doubt because they depend, in part, in accepting the defendant's version of the facts as to how they got to the point where the witness viewed them. Also, a good reason, IMHO, to avoid any further legal proceedings against Z.

With the revocation of this duty to retreat by the "stand your ground laws", it is more likely, IMHO, that these type of ambiguous situations that lead to deaths will increase rather than decrease. Not a good thing.

The primary danger in this case is that the media have so distorted the facts that a great many dumb people now think that you can kill someone for sport and claim self-defense. The media have put the public in grave danger.

We agree. That is one of the fall outs of this incident and another reason why "stand your ground" laws do not encourage a peaceful society and should be repealed.




To: Thomas M. who wrote (227811)7/16/2013 8:34:15 AM
From: Sam  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 540756
 
A discussion of race and polarization in America on Morning Joe:
nbcnews.com

David Gregory: Social media today isn't about the free flow of information, it is much more about the free flow of invective.

Me: Anonymity is a social curse. It amplifies the already difficult problems of mass society.