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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (727008)7/16/2013 6:34:30 PM
From: longnshort1 Recommendation

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Bonefish

  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1579830
 
the 9-11 operator said is he white, hispanic or black zim said he looks black.

trayvon wasn't being chased, im lost track of him and trayvon ambushed him and col cock him zim didn't have time to indentfy himself, the 9-11 operator said twice to keep an eye on him and then later said we don't need you to follow him and zim stopped.

where the hell do you get your info



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (727008)7/16/2013 6:48:50 PM
From: one_less1 Recommendation

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TopCat

  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579830
 
First of all, I'm 99% sure Zim identified him to the 911 operator as a black guy.....

He was asked by the 911 operator to identify the suspicious character by race, up to that point there is no indication Zim was paying attention to race. Even if he had been, which you don't know, that just means he was doing his job of observing and noticing what he could. In any event we know he was not a racist.

Now, where did
Zim get all that info above when he didn't know who he was chasing...?
At what point did anyone say he didn't have any description? If he noticed the suspicious character was black should he have abandoned his role as watchman?
Being suspicious is one thing,

Yes, it was doing his job.

killing that person without good reason is quite another...

Yes it would be a bad thing, while defending yourself from a person who is attempting to beat you to death is a good reason to defend yourself with overwhelming force.

Trayvon was being chased and followed by a stranger with no idea who he was.....Z did not try to identify himself, the truck had no marking, Zim had nothing that would mark him as Neighborhood Watch......

Neighborhood watch is not supposed to approach suspicious characters or involve themselves beyond observing and reporting suspicous conduct. According to Jeantel the word 'cracka' is used to describe someone acting in the role of a cop, who is not a cop, like a watchman. Which would indicate Trayvon knew exactly what was going on.

......he wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun,
Not true. You don't get to make that rule, and you have not produced any evidence that he was violating the watch rules by carrying a gun.

and he defied orders not to follow.......

He was not following. He was ambushed.

So a teenager being followed in the dark by a stranger is no reason to be afraid.....??

I would be, and Trayvon may have been. Which would have been a good reason for him to go indoors, it is not a good reason to lay in ambush and attack Zim. The description given by Jeantel is of a Trayvon who was excited about whoopin ass (apparently a hobbie of Trayvon's) and that is the condition under which he was shot.

"As it turns out, a history of violent aggression causing suspension from school, drug usage, having been caught with burglarized items in his backpack, current stated intent to commit violent acts, and ultimately formulating a plan to violently attack a watchman with a stated intent to kill him. George was right to be suspicious of this guy."

You already knew all this. I am just curious about what would make your persecution of Zimmerman worth it. The need to belong, even if it has to be to an hysterical mob? No conscience about hating conservatives? Certainly not justice.



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (727008)7/16/2013 8:32:04 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1579830
 
Except that's not what happened......there are none so blind as those who will not see....



To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (727008)7/17/2013 10:42:27 AM
From: HPilot  Respond to of 1579830
 
Trayvon was being chased and followed by a stranger with no idea who he was.....Z did not try to identify himself, the truck had no marking, Zim had nothing that would mark him as Neighborhood Watch......he wasn't supposed to be carrying a gun, and he defied orders not to follow....... So a teenager being followed in the dark by a stranger is no reason to be afraid.....?? Zim got away with manslaughter...

So Travon reacts by punching him and trying to murder him by pounding his head on cement? And he should attack a complete stranger because he thought he was being followed.

What about the fact that Travon was trying to kill Zim because he thought he was gay? Isn't this against his civil rights?