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To: Alighieri who wrote (727196)	7/17/2013 2:32:49 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1580538

Al, Keep denying facts you don't like node... Which facts did he "deny"? The one talking about the "50% discount" that individuals buying their own insurance will enjoy in NY? First of all, NY is already known for having tons of regulations and very few choices for individuals buying their own insurance. That in itself leads to premiums well above the average. Secondly, further down in the article, it states that only 17,000 New Yorkers pay for their own health insurance. With a sample size so small compared to the entire state population, it's likely that every single one of them is an "exception" case. Third, we already have one data point on this very thread that contradicts the NYT claim of $1,000/month for health insurance premiums. And fourth, who wants to pay $1,000/month for health insurance? No one would do that unless they have health conditions that force them. That suggests that the people paying for their own insurance aren't "typical" for New Yorkers or the rest of the nation. I think you're pissed off because Inode dared to call B.S. on yet another NYT puff piece. Tenchusatsu

To: Alighieri who wrote (727196)	7/17/2013 2:45:19 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1580538

>> There is no way you pool people and prices go up. Of course there is. If costs go up, prices will, too. If costs go up more than they otherwise would have, so will the prices of coverage. The real change, however, is that quality of service is dropping like a rock. And there will not be a coincidental drop in costs. At the end of the day, it is pretty much the worst of all worlds. And that's before the economic crisis it has created by moving thousands of jobs from full time to part time, or in creating the loss of jobs altogether -- a totally predictable and predicted outcome. Obama and Reid need to make a sincere apology to the American people and agree to a repeal and replacement of the bill with something better thought out and bipartisan. Not that that would ever happen.