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To: Alighieri who wrote (727476)7/18/2013 6:02:37 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580812
 
>> You were talking quality and when that didn't work you switched to cost.

No. What I'm saying is you can have it cheap or you have excellence. You cannot have both unless you get government totally out of it.

>>" OK...people who were getting health care for nothing are now having to pay for it and so far what we know is that comparing apples to apples exchanges that have come on line have lowered cost of premiums while delivering preventive care without a deductible catch. "

You're basing this on that misleading report out of NY? (the one from CA was long ago debunked as being outright lying). The NY report just omitted crucial facts.

Like, the 50% "cut" applies to a minuscule fraction of NYers who were already paying the highest premiums in the entire country. Sure, theirs may come down. Even after the 50% reduction they're STILL paying the highest premiums in the country because of NY's insane regulatory environment.

This is more of the same propaganda we were getting several years ago. Do you think Obama rushed out that speech today based on the report yesterday? Of course not. He's coordinating with Cuomo to try to build support for a failing program.

And the speech today and NY report yesterday were carefully targeted to the gullible. They see the wheels coming off and cooked up this bogus report in an effort to slow the self destruction.



To: Alighieri who wrote (727476)7/18/2013 6:14:26 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1580812
 
Al, you're just repeating slogans.

Preventative care is something most people already have, or at least have more than adequate access to. The people who don't are usually uninsured, which means they'll only go to the hospital when something bad happens.

Quality of health care is a very broad and ambiguous measure. The notion that it's improving simply because of more "preventative care" is inaccurate and misleading.

Tenchusatsu