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To: diana g who wrote (534)7/20/2013 7:04:52 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 671
 
Excellent.....



To: diana g who wrote (534)7/20/2013 7:23:40 PM
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More 'comments' on Obama's statement as reported by the NYT:
I should add that these are comments I agreed with. The vast majority of the over 1000 comments had a different slant. That is as expected-- It is the NYTimes, after all.

"If blacks have an image problem, change it, don't ask others not to look. "

" You can always spot a racist. He's the one who, before there are facts on the table, judges an incident in favor of his race. He's also the one who, after the evidence and verdict contradict him, judges the incident in favor of his race. "

"Is it possible that blacks are racially profiled because they commit a disproportionally high number of crimes in this country? Mr. Obama would be better served by calling out black leaders to focus on reducing the high crime rate in their own community. Unfortunately, he and many other black leaders would rather tell people what they want to hear and not what they need to hear. "

"A half-white neighborhood watch guy shoots a black 17-year old who is on top of him punching his face over and over and Obama suddenly identifies with him? So he doesn't identify at all with thousands of victims killed by other blacks but he sees his own son in Martin?.... Maybe the victim mentality has become so institutionalized that it's just too much for any black person to see any reality except racial victimization? "

"I think his comment will do nothing but give license and fuel more demonstrations. He has the right to his opinion of course, but he is now doubling down on the race issue that got this trial and incident blown way out of proportion.
GZ would have shot a white man that was pounding on him MMA style and saying he was going to kill him. Obama should be trying to heal this mess and instead he is throwing Kerosene on the fire. He makes a better Community Activist than he does a president.
Years of feeding black children a false narrative that they are some persecuted underclass and are perpetual victims of racism fuels the paranoia that leads to Trayvons feeling it is OK and correct to punch someone and try to beat them into unconsciousness.
Thus was not a racial incident, This was a tragedy. The only crime that occurred that night was when Trayvon circled back and beat a man into fear for his life. "

" [Commenter begins by quoting from the NYT article]
'...few African-American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store.'
Mr President, there is a reason why ... it's because black men commit a disproportionate number of crimes compared to their population size and probably out-do every other race when it comes to crime. Furthermore, a large number of black youth are either in gangs or wannabe gangsters, which is reflected in how they dress. You can call this racism, but this really comes down to fearing about one's own safety, and as an Indian I am much more comfortable surrounded by white folk than black folk who dress in hoodies, have low-riding pants, and act like gangsters. Until the black community takes a hard look at itself and understands the reasons for why others have such a view, this view is never going to change. "

"There's profiling because Blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. It's not about race, it's about the perception of danger. If you're walking down a dark street at night and hear loud footsteps behind you, you'll be relieved to see a Black man in a suit and tie rather than a White man who looks like a Hell's Angel. We would perceive the White man to be the greater risk of danger. It's not race; it's perception of risk, and all things being equal, there's a greater risk of crime from Black males than from males of other races. Sorry, but as long as that exists, folks will profile. "

"Instead of talking about seeing this through the black community's eyes, perhaps the President should have told the black community to look at this through eyes that don't see everything through the prism of racism (both real and imagined). Perhaps he should have told the black community that whites murdering blacks is a relatively rare occurrence and to focus on this to the exclusion of the much greater problem of the murder of blacks by other blacks is a distraction that allows a wholesale slaughter to continue. Perhaps he could tell the black community that the indifference to education that exists throughout much of the community condemns them to be a permanent underclass. Perhaps instead of talking he could act and use his commutation power to release the thousands of blacks serving absurdly long drug sentences in federal prisons.
But I don't expect any of the above from this President. "



To: diana g who wrote (534)7/20/2013 9:09:53 PM
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it does not matter whether a gangbanger is white , black, green, or orange ... they are scum of the earth.. you cannot just go assaulting anyone for fun. trayvon was a thug, bum , thief and vile individual. Legit citizens see trayvon what for he was-scum.. and 1 less scum in this world is an improvement. trayvons dad should also be hanging his head with his wonderful parenting skills... With this obamma economy , crime will only go higher. thus it is even more important to stand your ground. Cities and towns are shedding cops, since they are BROKE and BANKRUPT from all the pensions, unions, discrimination lawsuits, affirmative action and other baloney.. are you going to wait 30 minutes for a cop to arrive when you are being assaulted by another hood like trayvon? you will have left the earth by the time the cop shows up. Yep , the crack babies from the 80's and 90's are grown up now, and look at the results!!



To: diana g who wrote (534)7/21/2013 4:09:11 PM
From: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck1 Recommendation

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Nice wish and a lot of "should be's". Just another dream. Reality is that history will record Ovomit as an abject failure. He squandered every good opportunity to make lasting change and capitalized every opportunity to manifest the fallacious.

The title of this thread is very appropriate