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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (728300)7/22/2013 4:53:33 PM
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He even admitted he was a lazy piece of shit in an interview. Straight from Obammy's lips...



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (728300)7/23/2013 8:01:34 PM
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Poll results give little comfort to pro-amnesty crowd

(Paul Mirengoff) Chris Cillizza of the Washington Post declares that the House will not pass the Senate immigration bill. Everyone understands, I think, that the House won’t pass the Senate bill per se. The big question is whether — on its own initiative or following a Senate-House conference — it will agree to amnesty/a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

I assume Cillizza’s answer is “no.” Otherwise, he’s not telling us anything.

Cillizza bases his conclusion on the results of a new ABC News/Washington Post poll. From these results, Cillizza finds four reasons to believe that the House won’t follow the Senate’s lead on immigration.

First, the Senate bill isn’t particularly popular. 46 percent favor it while 44 oppose. As Cillizza says, “it’s not like Americans are clamoring for this one piece of legislation.”

Second, the opposition is louder. Just 19 percent of Americans support the Senate bill “strongly,” while 30 percent oppose it strongly. And, I would add, the percentage of Republicans who strongly oppose the bill is considerably larger than 30 percent. House Republicans can’t help but be influenced by that fact.

Third, supporters aren’t angry enough. As Cillizza explains, just 50 percent say they would be “disappointed” if a path to citizenship doesn’t pass, compared to 40 percent who would be “relieved.” And among the 50 percent that would be disappointed, just 13 percent say they would be “angry.”

Moreover, not all of those in the “disappointed” category would blame Republicans. Indeed, if we believe this poll, less than one-third of Americans would be disappointed and blame Republicans. And only a very small percentage would be angry and blame Republicans.

Fourth, Americans like Boehner’s approach. Just 32 percent want the House to vote on the Senate bill. 54 percent prefer the Speaker’s approach of breaking the issues down into individual pieces.

I should also note that the ABC News/Washington Post poll cited by Cillizza may overstate support for the Senate’s approach generally, and for a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. The same survey found that 49 percent approve of Obama’s performance and that only 44 percent disapprove. Most current polls show Obama doing significantly worse.

Since those who are well-disposed towards Obama are also likely to approve of the Senate’s immigration bill, that bill may be a little less popular than the ABC News/Washington Post poll suggests.



To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (728300)7/24/2013 11:46:36 PM
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Menendez: 'Conference' Will Get Amnesty Past House Republicans...

Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), a member of the Senate’s “Gang of Eight,” told liberal activists at the Center for American Progress (CAP) on Wednesday how the Democrats plans to enact amnesty for the 11 million illegal immigrants: Get the House to pass whatever immigration bills it likes, then go to “conference” with the Senate bill.“Get us to a conference," Menendez pleaded with the liberal activists, according to Slate’s Dave Weigel. "In a conference, we can negotiate the notion of bringing all those bills together and get to common ground."

As Breitbart News reported this weekend, conservatives fear that House Speaker John Boehner and Majority Leader Eric Cantor, and other members of GOP leadership, will use a conference committee, either advertently or inadvertently, to pass an amnesty.

In conference, representatives for House GOP leadership would negotiate with Senate Democratic leadership, and possibly the White House, on what they would call a “compromise” on immigration reform. Conservatives worry that the legislation that would come out of conference would look more like the Senate bill than not or, worse, potentially be exactly the same as the Senate bill.

Now that Menendez is asking CAP activists to help get him and rest of the Gang of Eight there, it is becoming clearer that is the left’s end game on the path to an amnesty.