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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Vosilla who wrote (134831)	7/23/2013 12:08:34 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

Most all my relatives came here post WW2 so I have not any guilt what so ever for the hood mentality or for past racism. We were at the bottom of the pecking order in the 1950's sort of like Mexicans and Haitians today. You want to talk about a group that has the most obstacles of all today it is the Haitians hands down. Yet the can do spirit working 2 and 3 low wage jobs, going to school at night, while still learning English and assimilating I find by many of them down here is a breath of fresh air more in tune with my immigrant parents and grandparents generations before me. I think lots to be learned and shared by pitting black conservatives and black liberal activists in a town hall setting. I think that would be awesome.. BTW 85% black Detroit filed bankruptcy.. A template for everything that went wrong in this country the past 50 years. Both sides to blame IMHO.. Let me start by saying anything I say will sound like I am defending American blacks but frankly I don't give a damn. First I don't think its at all reasonable to compare American blacks with Haitians. The country of Haiti is the result of a slave revolt...........the former slaves were successful and by 1804 had formed their own country..................60 years before blacks were free in this country. Blacks were a sizable majority in Haiti; whites a very small minority. There was much less discrimination against the free ex slaves and despite the dictators that ruled Haiti, blacks were truly free........much freer than blacks were in this country until maybe 30 years ago. As late as the 1960s, blacks in this country were not allowed to move into certain neighborhoods in almost every city in the country. In the South they were forced to use separate facilities. Many jobs were closed to them....many universities as well. Public schools imposed de facto segregation.........and those public schools teaching most blacks are/were some of the poorest schools and most poorly equipped. After the 1960s when blacks could move into all white neighborhoods , whites fled the cities en masse because they feared blacks. That's what seriously damaged Detroit and many other cities of the North. As late as the 1980s, Reagan was threatening to overturn the civil rts acts of the 1960s and was aggressive;u pushing states' rights in the South. According to majority whites, blacks were lazy, stupid, and inferior............a perspective that whites were not shy about sharing with blacks. A basic understanding of human psychology makes very clear what this level of vitriol, hatred and discrimination will do to the mass psyche of a race. For 300 years American blacks were told they were the lowest of the low.....scum, chattel, an inferior species. Many of the brightest blacks who rebelled against their captors were killed. Both male and female slaves were raped by their masters. We're talking about an episode of American history that ranks right up there with other atrocities that have happened to the human race since it first set foot on this planet. And when you start comparing the 'good' blacks of Haiti with those of this country........I have to respond by saying I don't think its a fair comparison. I think a better comparison is with the Palestinians of Trans Jordan or the Native Americans of this country or the aborigines of Australia or the Shia of the Middle East. There are certain peoples of the world who have had it worse than others and that fact can not be ignored when assessing those people. And lets not forget that a little over a year and half ago an adult male shot and killed an innocent black teenager. That adult male now is out of jail and walking free because of the white man's laws in this country. Some things haven't changed all that much.