Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Politics : Evolution -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Greg or e who wrote (39366)	7/23/2013 1:09:53 AM
From: Solon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"a hunk of snot isn't" A hunk of snot contains millions of organisms. In fact, most of the cells in your body are NOT human cells. Live with it! Human DNA is a small percentage of the genetic composition of your body. And again, you using either "DNA" or "living organism" as synonyms for personhood is just bloody retarded! There are philosophical considerations as to when society will confer personhood on human DNA. A woman's egg is never a person--whether fertilised or not--no more than a goose egg is a goose. Indeed, most eggs are spontaneously aborted as an act of Nature. So maybe you just need to pray harder?

To: Greg or e who wrote (39366)	7/23/2013 8:26:04 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 69300

Medical sites repeatedly use the term baby for a child in the womb: .... If you do a Google search and type in words like baby, fetus, womb, uterus, and such, you will find site after site corroborating this inconsistent lexicon. I selected the first few web sites that came up during my search. I did not hunt for these resources or cherry pick them. What I found was beautiful and accurate language celebrating the development of a baby inside the womb. WebMD uses the term "baby" to describe an 8-week old fetus. A caption for one of the developmental pictures in sequence reads: Development at 8 Weeks: The baby is now a little over half an inch in size. Eyelids and ears are forming, and you can see the tip of the nose. The arms and legs are well formed. The fingers and toes grow longer and more distinct. At MedicineNet, there is celebration over the pregnancy and the word baby is used repeatedly. There is no talk of "clumps of cells" or "tissue." The caption of the first picture that is part of a month-by-month slide show reads: Your Baby's Growth: Conception to Birth: Congratulations on becoming pregnant! We are sure you are curious about how your pregnancy will progress, and how your body will develop week to week over the next few months. In this slideshow we will take a look inside the womb to see how a baby develops through the first, second, and third trimesters. Over at Photo Buck there are countless photos that come under the banner heading "Baby in Womb photos." There are also many videos available for viewing and here, again, title after title uses the word "baby." At Livestrong, concerns are noted about things that can be harmful to the developing baby. Embryonic Stage (2 - 7 weeks): ...During this developmental stage, because of the rapid anatomical development, the embryo is very susceptible to damage from teratogens--substances such as alcohol, drugs, radiation and infection. It is always good for an expectant mother to avoid teratogens, but it is especially important during the embryonic stage. I wonder if people who wrote about these medical facts think it is just as harmful to an embryo to suck it out through a hose attached to a vacuum suction. Or to dismember a baby during an abortion. Apparently, as they say, even the tiny "embryo is very susceptible to damage..." Indeed. At Baby Center there is enormous enthusiasm to educate every step of the way, beginning at conception. Inside your womb: Take a peek inside your womb and see exactly what your baby looks like at the moments of fertilization and implantation, throughout all three trimesters, and at full-term. Find out how big your baby is at every step along the way and see our slide show of fruit and veggie size comparisons. Plus, discover what twins look like inside the womb. Get a clear view of your developing baby with our incredible lifelike fetal development animations. Would the same people who wrote that provide the same tender and enthusiastic education to a woman who is considering an abortion? I doubt it. Now contrast the WebMD language in their overview of a baby's development in the womb to their page on abortion. In the section on surgical abortion, they write: A surgical abortion ends a pregnancy by surgically removing the contents of the uterus. There is no longer a "baby" in the uterus. It has become "contents" to be removed. In this way, the language is manipulated to distance the woman and those who work in the abortion industry from the reality of what abortion means. In this undercover video, an employee at an abortion clinic makes a point of saying they don't use the word "kill." Instead the abortion is a "termination" that involves the removal of "pregnancy tissue." Is there any normal doctor out there who refers to a woman's developing baby as "pregnancy tissue" when the baby will be carried to term and born? "Congratulations on the birth of your successfully non-terminated pregnancy tissue!" It has a certain ring to it, though I don't see Hallmark jumping to print cards anytime soon (though a company called Exhale does make abortion e-cards). When a baby is born, its life is celebrated. Just as miscarriages are mourned. Why then can we not use truthful language for abortion which is about "kill," "death," "dismemberment," "the taking of an innocent life?" "Termination" is what happens when you lose your job. Not when you intentionally kill a developing baby in the womb. ....... How health care providers and patients discuss health issues is another area where language puts abortion in a class of its own. When someone is diagnosed with a health problem, doctor and patient talk in depth about the physiology of the disease and the impact of treatment. In the case of abortion, patients are not informed in detail about what will happen to the baby during the abortion. What is discussed is the procedure itself. And even then, the level of detail about precisely how the fetus will be killed and removed from the woman's body is often kept to a minimum. "D&C." That sounds easy enough. As Planned Parenthood states: "...a curette is used to remove any remaining tissue that lines the uterus." Or, a "D&E" where "medical instruments and a suction machine will gently empty your uterus." Wow, it's almost like going to a day spa for a soothing treatment. Couple that with how common Planned Parenthood says abortions are and there's hardly a thing to worry about. I mean, when "1 in 3 women in the U.S. have an abortion by the time they're 45 years old," it must be no big deal, right? So much for Bill Clinton's and now Barack Obama's famous comments about how abortions should be "safe, legal, and rare." With areas of the country where a baby in the womb has as much chance of being aborted as being carried to term, I'd say the "rare" ship has sailed. Not only are details about what happens to the developing baby in the womb during an abortion in short supply, but there is evidence to prove that health care providers discourage women from gathering too much information on the matter. An effort is made to keep the gory details of the barbaric procedure to a minimum. ........... Read more: americanthinker.com Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter \| AmericanThinker on Facebook