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To: bentway who wrote (728710)	7/24/2013 2:05:01 AM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573230

>> But the simple fact is that eight out of ten Wehrmacht personnel were killed by the Red Army. The Soviets lost a LOT more people than Germany did. I'm not sure what the body counts were for the Germans in various places, but there is zero doubt that the United States was predominantly responsible for ending the German's ability to make war. I've read an awful lot about WWII, and before tonight, I've never heard anyone suggest otherwise.

To: bentway who wrote (728710)	7/24/2013 3:15:55 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1573230

Hi bentway; Re "who won WW2". Either the US alone or the USSR alone could easily have defeated Germany. Hell, Britain would have eventually beat them without any assistance from the US or USSR. Germany was an economic weakling. Even with occupied Europe she could not beat Britain alone. Britain assisted by US production was completely unstoppable. The US or Britain would have done it through technology. The war would have taken a lot longer. Eventually our troops would have landed on radioactive beaches and marched through a Germany that would make Hiroshima look like a garden party. If the Russians had gone at it alone they would have eventually beaten the Germans but it would have taken considerably longer than it did. Maybe they too, would have ended up nuking Berlin. The actual war was won by a combination of forces. Germany was stretched technologically on the western front. All the stuff they had to do to try and stop Bomber Harris meant that those aircraft, men and machinery weren't being used tactically on the Eastern Front. All the steel they put into U-Boats wasn't available for the tank factories. And the fact that the Western Allies didn't let Germany import food and oil was critical to their problems against the USSR. Germany spent a lot of money fighting the US and Britain and a lot of lives fighting the Russians. Both contributed to her quick defeat. The best technical reference for how Germany was beaten is "The Wages of Destruction -- The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy": amazon.com If you want to read what the Nazis themselves felt about the subject, pick up a copy of Goebbels war diaries. They come in three or four volumes. The volume covering the last part of the war is here: amazon.com -- Carl