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To: average joe who wrote (39529)	7/25/2013 5:03:16 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

The arbiter of morality of death is clearly dependent on what is determined as tolerable thresholds & durations of pain, endured by those that are dying . By most terminally ill hospital beds you find the person hooked up to a morphine drip, so pain is minimalized ( which wasn't always the case before) . Pain killling drugs were witheld often times, esp if you were poor but we are more humane now& morphine is cheap. The same basic standard would be applied to birth & abortion, when is that fetus sentient & a person capable of feeling pain? Aristotle put his two cents in saying that personhood could be seen at 7wks, clearly any proto~ fetus before this is non sentient & beyond pain without question. That would be impractical & cause such hardship to women to define life that early to deny them abortion rights, a 12wk fetus isn't longer than your little finger & just barely fully formed. we can see those exaggerated pictures of dishonest anti-abortion people like greg, flooding the net with some images of a Matel Toy Company doll sized infant, this is the reality of 12wks below. babycenter.com

To: average joe who wrote (39529)	7/25/2013 1:09:51 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

Speaking of the morality pain management, had to go to emergency room 2mos for a nerve spasm (later fixed with cortisone epidural, cured). Happened to catch the charges for seeing a doctor for maybe 120secs max, who prescribed one Codein pain pill & was gone. They charged my Insurance Co: $75 for one pain pill ( am not kidding) $500 for 2mins with doctor (or $15,000/hr) $1004 for the emergency room. ( 15mins)