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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (41555)	7/26/2013 2:34:25 PM
From: Eric	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 86356

Well the problem has been getting worse and worse for years here in Washington state. Legal Dungeness crab catches have been dropping on the coast, the San Juan's and here in Puget Sound. Some of my oceanographic friends who work at the U of W have become increasingly concerned.. Now we are seeing the effects of increased CO2 in the atmosphere transfer to the oceans. My crab catch was really fantastic just 15 years ago. Now it's pathetic. Pretty sad.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (41555)	7/27/2013 12:29:14 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86356

Hi Rat; You're ignoring the cycles. Let me repeat it for you: "More consistently high recruitment occurred from the late 1930s through about 1959, after which recruitment was low through 1981* and then increased and was generally better through 2005."* Remember that 1981 happens to be the year that the alarmists use as the start of global warming. As the next cycle starts you'll get global cooling and oysters will be okay again. The Pacific has been doing this for thousands of years. If the climate people understood the cycle, they'd have taken it into account back in 2000 and wouldn't have been wrong about the global air temperature average. Instead, they assumed that the changes were all CO2 no cycle. As the cycle turns, their estimates get more realistic. Watch for them to start getting much more realistic in a few years. The basic climate alarmism error is ignoring the fact that climate has been changing constantly for millions of years. The geologists know this which is why the alarmists have trouble publishing in geology journals and why the alarmists keep geologists from publishing in the journals they control. But as climatology becomes older, it is inevitable that it converges toward geology. Can't hide from the data. -- Carl