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To: RetiredNow who wrote (135045)7/27/2013 12:28:39 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
I read a recent article that linked persistent poverty to family role models, exactly what John was saying. The wealthy stay wealthy through the generations in part because their parents teach them all the skills needed to thrive in the world. The poor stay poor, because the parents don't have time to spend on developing their child. For example, my Uncle and Aunt emigrated from a Communist country. They came here and each worked 3 jobs for over 40 years. They had no time for their son. My parents raised their son for many years and taught him the skills he needed. Long story short, he grew up to be a very successful upper middle class citizen. My brother and I have both move into the top 1% from parents who were VERY middle class. It boils down to one primary thing, parenting. If the parents are there and have the time, ability, and desire to do the parenting, then the child has a high probability to succeed. If the parents are divorced, working several jobs, and have no time or ability to do the parenting, then the child will face staggering odds of improving from the previous generation.

So is it the chicken or the egg? Is it poverty or is it the parenting? I think it's more the parenting. i've known some very poor people who made sure their kids got the early parenting they needed, despite enormous odds. It's an interesting debate, though, because the answer really could be either way. Who really knows?


There is no question that parenting is critical but the black community has had 300+ years of dysfunction and weak parenting. After all, its hard to be a good parent if you've never seen what a good parent is like, or if your parents were absent most of your growing years. The poverty and dysfunction are passed on from generation to generation much like alcoholism is passed down from one generation to the next, and the poverty cycle remains unbroken.

I want to break that poverty cycle and IMO the best way to do it is to get to the kids before they get sucked into the failures of their parents and the overall poverty cycle. And IMO that's to educate them well..........best schools, best teachers, best equipment. Kids are incredibly superficial and they get very quickly when they are being treated as second rate. That means we as a nation have to really commit to public education and to spend the money that's needed to make sure city schools are as good as the ones going up in affluent suburbs. Kids get when you like and respect them. And when they get it, even the poorest of kids will do the work. I know.........I have experienced it first hand.

We saw what the current system is producing.....a lot of rachel jeantels. Smart kids who can't read English. That's frigging scary. Its got to stop if this country wants to remain successful going forward.



To: RetiredNow who wrote (135045)8/1/2013 9:05:10 AM
From: John Vosilla  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
The wealthy stay wealthy through the generations in part because their parents teach them all the skills needed to thrive in the world. The poor stay poor, because the parents don't have time to spend on developing their child.

Yes and the divide is much wider now than ever due to record wealth disparity, a hollowing out of the middle class and a cycle of welfare and broken homes that has grown way too much since LBJ's Great Society was put in place. Yes education always helps but not too many young successful black men as role models in the ghettos. Look at how the incarceration rate skyrocketed starting in the 1970's and never looked back after trickle down economics was put in place. en.wikipedia.org