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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9781)12/7/1997 11:33:00 PM
From: Barnabus  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Have really appreciated both (Alan & Nancy) of your inciteful posts. I think we Christian Gentiles have dropped the ball when it comes to the treatment of the Jews.
An aside. What in the world is M. Albright doing trying to put pressure on Netanayu (sp?) to give more land on the west bank? Is she anti-semetic? Wow.
Cannot imagine what it is like to face being gunned down because of my
race.
In Hayden Lake, ID the headquarters of the so-called "Arayan Nation" is a baaaaaad place. They use the kjv Bible, shave their heads, and behave absolutely crazy. Two of them killed a Jewish talk-show host in Denver, CO about a decade ago. Hid in the shadows, and when the talkshow host, Alan Berg opened his garage door to his home, they gunned him down. And they call themselves Christian. GOOD GRIEF.
Let us continue to pray for the peace of Jerusalem.

Jack



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9781)12/8/1997 3:18:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
><>... Welcom Alan and Nancy...><>

It is a pleasure to have you both here. I am sorry that you both have been put off by some posts. God knows there is much dissension even among brethren, and this should not be. We can at least in a civil and loving manner discuss with one another some of the pitfalls without certainly attempting to exclude anyone. Some people cannot discuss any matters, unfortunately, without an air of superiority or without claiming some sort of special knowing,and I guess it is no different for some when discussing the matters of God. So disheartening.

Some self appointed experts make the fatal mistake of wiping out in one swoop the
promises that God made to the House of Israel and the Hosuse of Jacob by declaring
that The OT and all the promises therin are dead.! God Forbid!

Consider the following and take from it what you will.

While it is true that the blood sacrifices of the OT, for the forgivness of sin is no longer
accepted since we have a more perfect sacrifice in our Lord Jesus, this is not to be
confused with the covenant
that God made with Abraham Or the National Covenant
made at Mt. Sinai.

The Abrahamic Covenant was Unconditional, Unalterable, and Unchangeable. It
did not depend on what the descendants of Abraham did or did not do.....The
Covenant stands forever on the oath of God.

God later renamed Jacob and called him Israel, so his descendants who were the
inheritors of the covenant were hereafter known as the children of Jacob/Israel.

At Mount Sinai, God gave His people a code of laws, Statutes, judgments,
commandments and ordinances (ONLY... the latter ceased with the crucifixion and resurrection
of our Lord Jesus Christ) by which His kingdom on earth would be administered.

The people of Mt. Sinai entered into a solemn convenant with their God and King, for
they said."All that the Lord has spoken we will do" (Ex.24:7-8)..That is the First
National Covenant and must not be confused with the Abrahamic Covenant!

Here God has laid before His people the conditions of this national covenant.If they
keep His laws blessed would they be in all their undertakings, blessed in the city and
blessed in the field, and so on and so on...
But if they did not keep those laws then the opposite would be the result....All their
undertakings would be cursed, their crops would fail,disease in the cattle and in their
own bodies, poverty and sickness would overtake them and their enemies would
overtake them in battle....Deut.28 And Lev.26

Here God warned Israel, (The entire 12 tribes, not just Judah) that if they persisted in breaking His laws, not only would
curses come upon them He would punish them for seven times, ( a time being 360 yrs.,
seven times would be 2520 yrs.) AND would banish them among the heathens (like
lost sheep) Lev.26:28-46

For many years all went well, but soon they began to tire and wanted to be like other
peoples. First they wanted an earthly king and God said that although in doing so, they
had rejected Him, He would give them permission (1 Sam. 8:7-22) Saul was then
appointed as Israel's first earthly king.

He was removed sometime later because of sin, and God Himself appointed David (of
the tribe of Judah) to be king over all Israel. God then established the Throne of David
Forever...(2 Sam.7:11-17 and Psalm 89:3-4) making an everlasting Covenant with
David that his throne and his house would endure forever and that there would
always be one of David's seed of lineage to reign upon that throne over the House of
Israel forever. (Jer> 33:17-26)...The throne would endure as long as the sun and the
moon endured in the heavens.(Ps.89:29-37)

So we have:
1. The everlasting Covenant made with Israel (the 12 tribes) forever, through their forefathers
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is now called Israel.

2.The Kingdom of Israel (The 12 Tribes) established for ever.

3. The throne of the House of david established as the Monarchical system over the
House of Israel forever.

So the House of Isreal, the throne of David, and the Everlasting Covenant must be in
existence today.
....The word of God is truth!

The throne of David was also the throne of our Lord. (1 Chron.29:23), and will yet be
occupied by the risen Christ, the King of Israel ( the 12 tribes)....."For the Lord shall give unto Him the
Throne of His Father David, and He sahll reign over the house of Jacob forever" (Luke
1:32-33)... He has not yet occupied that throne.

Will continue this ASAP

Have a blessed day both of you
Shalom...><>