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To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (49690)	7/30/2013 2:47:38 AM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By Brumar89 Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

>> The 60s movement was about a bunch of mental and emotional teenagers who refused to grow up and take care of themselves. And you are still stuck in that pathetic entitled thumbsucking phase. Well, I was a teenager then and I behaved like one. Some grew up and others didn't. A lot of those who didn't are currently federal & state government employees, living off the work of others. 45 years hence. Strange.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (49690)	7/30/2013 3:44:53 AM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

speaking of responsibility for one's actions.... JPM rides off after robbing the world of billions with a paltry $400m fine and no one to jail.... when will you and the others wake up to what's happening? finance.yahoo.com I can hear i-node now.... "Just because they're getting fined $400m doesn't necessarily mean they did anything wrong! Why, corporations never do anything wrong! Correlation doesn't mean causation. Er, causation doesn't mean correlation....er, just get government off their backs!"

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (49690)	7/30/2013 12:14:01 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

Not bullshit at all: You have no understanding of the 60's. We hippies were hard working college kids mostly. Do you think it is easy working your way through a university? It is tough as hell which is why many don't do it! I used to work all night and go straight to my classes. And UC Berkeley, our head quarters, is one of the hardest universities in the world to get into. One has to study constantly to get in there and stay in there. And after college most of us went on to be professionals of one type or another. We did not use the welfare system we fought for, for the poor. Most of we hippies ended up as upper income folks. And to repeat, college is harder than working. Why do you think so many people don't go? They don't like giving up their video games, or hanging out, to do their homework! We were not in the least lazy or irresponsible, but very good citizens. And the tribal norms and mores were outdated: like racism, sexism and genderism. We learned that in college and set out to change that shit. Everything you said in that post is pure made up stuff that has nothing to do with reality at all. Nothing. I am almost 72 and I still work 7 days a week. And the freedom we wanted was for women to be treated equally, for minorities to be treated equally, for gays to be treated humanely and for people to feel free to be whomever they wanted to be. In the old rules there was lots of terrible ideas that kept people from being free. Like the requirements of many religions which are nuts. What we were doing is exactly what the secular kids are doing in the middle east right now to get rid of the 7th century chains that imprison them. << Basically, the freedom you wanted was to do whatever you wanted without taking responsibility for it while being dependent on others for your survival. You wanted the freedom to be parasites. You wanted the freedom to force responsible people to take care of you. The 60s movement was about a bunch of mental and emotional teenagers who refused to grow up and take care of themselves. And you are still stuck in that pathetic entitled thumbsucking phase. You are all a bunch of fleas.