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To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (730636)	8/3/2013 12:20:34 AM
From: simplicity	5 Recommendations Recommended By FJB joseffy MakeMyDay one_less THE WATSONYOUTH Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1578270

While Obama would veto it, the possibility of an override of the veto exists. no it does not. I agree. I heard someone say today that America is standing at an historical crossroads right now. Either this administration is going to crash and burn or America is going to turn into a fascist state. The former will not happen no matter what crimes the administration commits, or how many times it cavalierly tramples on the Constitution. 'Progressives' (under that label and all of the previous ones under which this cancerous movement has been at work) have been striving since around the turn of the twentieth century to turn America away from her founding principles. The Obama administration has made greater strides toward that end than all previous administrations combined. Progressives have infiltrated all branches of government, the media, the education establishment, and the 'entertainment' industry to the point where their agenda is now virtually irreversible. So this president has a blank check to do anything he wants because they simply will not allow him to fail. They have worked too hard, for too long, to turn back now.

To: THE WATSONYOUTH who wrote (730636)	8/3/2013 12:37:32 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578270

>> no it does not. I disagree. It would require a confluence of highly unlikely events, I will agree. But the possibility is there with elections approaching in 2014 and with a number of Democrat senators being highly vulnerable. Repeal is the most important issue of the day. But Republicans have failed miserably in presenting an alternative. If a cogent alternative were proposed and the Republicans were able to convey to the public that those who didn't support it had to be replaced, the votes could be there. You're never going to get NY or CA or MA senators to support it. But it is possible to pick off enough, I believe. Furthermore, if you just get enough to pass the repeal, but not override, it is possible to bring enough pressure on Obama if you give him a way to save face that he could sign it. But you have to allow him to call it Obamacare and frame it as an improvement of the existing law. Do I believe all that is going to happen? No. But you don't just quit trying. In the end, I think it could be so bad that people will support repeal after Obama is out of office. I have to believe this, as I see Obamacare threatens the existence of the country.