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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (730882)	8/4/2013 5:39:25 PM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574406

Odumbo is not a "weak" leader.....he is NO leader....a total fail.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (730882)	8/4/2013 10:50:06 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574406

"They've succeeded in getting the sequester through, which is helping to reduce the deficit and restore what little confidence remained in the the government's fiscal matters." You're an idiot. If you recall, the sequester was SUPPOSED to be a method of across-the-board meataxe budgeting so horrible, that neither side would ALLOW it to come to pass. The DUMBEST form of budget reduction possible, among all the alternatives, that cut the vital right alongside the the pork, designed to FORCE both sides to the table. Now, you want the Republicans to get CREDIT for it? All it shows it they're incapabale of governing. LOL!

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (730882)	8/5/2013 2:18:17 PM
From: SilentZ	2 Recommendations Recommended By bentway tejek Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574406

>Another straw man. I never said they're not accomplishments because I don't like them. I said that most of his "accomplishments" were already fait accompli or just plain spin. It wasn't a straw man. It was a supposition. Because... " I said that most of his "accomplishments" were already fait accompli or just plain spin.".... ... just isn't true. I didn't want to have to do this, because it's a pain in my ass, but here goes... *1. Passed Health Care Reform* We've both agreed that this is an accomplishment. *2. Passed the Stimulus* You didn't want him to, and I didn't think it was big enough, but it's an accomplishment. *3. Passed Wall Street Reform* Wasn't as good as it could've been, but it's an accomplishment. *4. Ended the War in Iraq* An accomplishment. *5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan* Yup. *6. Eliminated Osama bin laden* Did in two years what his predecessor couldn't do in seven. *7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry* Sure seems that way. *8. Recapitalized Banks* Didn't love the way he did it, and he did it with help from the previous administration, but it is an accomplishment. 9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” Yup. *10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi* Just when the previous administration had made buddies with it! Whatever his actions or inactions, it was accomplished without us bombing the shit out of a whole country the way the last administration would've been inclined to do... And so on... >They've succeeded in getting the sequester through, which is helping to reduce the deficit and restore what little confidence remained in the the government's fiscal matters. Whose confidence exactly? Not the hundreds of thousands or millions of Americans who have lost their jobs, seen their pay cuts, or their services reduced as a result. And you show a complete misunderstanding of what the sequester was meant to do. It was supposed to be a deal that was supposed to hold until the election was over, and then the winner of the election was supposed to replace it with their agenda. I guess if negotiating in bad faith counts as an accomplishment, then OK. They got ONE. -Z

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (730882)	8/5/2013 2:30:07 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1574406

They've succeeded in getting the sequester through, which is helping to reduce the deficit and restore what little confidence remained in the the government's fiscal matters. That's quite an accomplishment, given that cutting budgets is never easy, especially when the campaigner-in-chief goes around telling doomsday stories about the sequester. And its a joke. The sequester is the equivalent of a brain surgeon using a rusty jackhammer to do surgery. It takes so little to please you all.