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To: i-node who wrote (731700)	8/8/2013 1:57:37 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575622

Inode, Many, if not most, Education majors are people who really couldn't handle a real major in college. I know you're responding to the Tedster, but can you elaborate on this statement? Education is a real major. Not as sexy as pre-med, pre-law, business, or even engineering these days, but it's still something that a lot of people go into. And AFAIK, they don't do it because they couldn't handle anything else. They do it because they really want to be teachers, because they have a passion for teaching future generations of young adults. Of course, I'm not saying that they should or shouldn't be paid more. On the surface, yeah they should be paid more for their troubles, but (a) we don't seem to have a shortage of teachers, and (b) throwing more money just masks the real problems with public education in America these days. Tenchusatsu

To: i-node who wrote (731700)	8/9/2013 7:49:58 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575622

>> You bring up all this crap about the teachers' unions but why don't they get paid a salary commensurate with their educational attainment? They are vastly overpaid for their "educational attainment". Let's be realistic; Many, if not most, Education majors are people who really couldn't handle a real major in college. That's not to say that no Education major excels at his/her education; university students tend to get out of a program what they put into it. But most are under-achievers. >> maybe the reason the brightest are not attracted is because the pay sucks. How can you say "the pay sucks"? Even in Arkansas, which you claim is one of the poorest in the nation, salary is $61K annualized, and that is for 7 hour work days with TONS of time off. Add on benefits, and you're getting up in the 80s easily. You can get a degree in Education by just showing up. How is that not overpaying? I don't what game you think you are playing but this is the starting salary and average salary for an Arkansas teacher.........don't give me that annualized crap......this is what Ark teachers take home..its why we have so few male teachers: Arkansas is 49th on our comfort scale with starting salaries of $32,478 and average Salaries of $46,500. Although the starting salaries are lower than in many other states, keep in mind that the cost of living is also much lower. teacherportal.com And I never saw one teacher that worked less than 8 hours per day. >> Teachers have to meet them or they get fired. This is total bullshit. In NYC, between 2007-2010, a total of 88 teachers (out of 80,000) lost their jobs for lousy performance -- that is less that 4/100ths of a percentage point per year. Are you fucking kidding me? In these horrible school districts, it takes an act of Congress to fire a bad teacher. That's New York.....its hardly typical: CHART: Local Governments Have Cut 130, 000 Teaching Jobs In The Last Year >> You keep saying that but my personal experience is that bad teachers do get fired. The facts, hard numbers, do not coincide with your personal experience. Depends if you get your 'hard' facts from Fox.....or a credible source.