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To: Greg or e who wrote (40192)	8/9/2013 12:09:35 AM
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You can look back to the US civil war, the confederate prison at Andersonville that saw upwards of 13,000 union soldiers die of malnutrition, overcrowding, filth & exposure. Good Christians all, on both sides, with very few atheists living in those times then, so give it up nimmy. No not all American ideals , but some essential feelings were shared. That was a war that should never have happened, they were also enemies of our enemies, its not always the simple solution & finger pointing you think. And only the dumbest morons would have thought to install a Catholic puppet president over a primarily 95% Buddhist country like Vietnam, (try doing that in Thailand, see how the tigers react) complete arrogant ignorant nimrods on the highest levels. And they all admitted it later, except for the ones that stupidity clings to their grey matter like a disease. All we had to do was be patient, use wisdom & forbearance, instead got feinted into a conflict we could not win strategically in modern jungle warfare. Our military elite was gearing & training completely for desert Middle East war at the time, our airforce superiority was inadequate & eventually countered.

To: Greg or e who wrote (40192)	8/9/2013 1:09:32 AM
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To find truth, you peer more deeply beyond some "liberal vs limbozo" popular moronic argumentation. The stories of just one war are enough to take years of study to fully comprehend, appreciate without the blame game, just look at the millions of experiences of families & individual human suffering; the good, the bad & the beautiful. We find the exodus of the Vietnamese boat people the entire biblical story revisited, how many times has this happened in history? Several hundred 1000 times in all, in human experience? Over & over again? And the will to help & lend hand, comes naturally, from past shared human experience, universal, an empathy out rememberance. Vietnamese boat people (perhaps 200,000- 400,000 died at sea, just imagine that ) en.wikipedia.org On June 10, 1977, an Israeli cargo ship en route to Japan crossed paths with a boat full of 66 Vietnamese. They were out of food and water, were extremely lost and scared, and their boat was leaking. The Israeli captain and crew immediately offered food and water and decided to bring the passengers on board and transported them to Israel. There, Prime Minister Menachem Begin authorized their Israeli citizenship, comparing their situation to the plight of Jewish refugees seeking a haven during the Holocaust. Following this rescue, between 1977 and 1979, Israel welcomed over three hundred Vietnamese refugees. As Begin explained to then-U.S. President Carter: "We never have forgotten the boat with 900 Jews the St. Louis, having left Germany in the last weeks before the Second World War... traveling from harbor to harbor, from country to country, crying out for refuge. They were refused... Therefore it was natural… to give those people a haven in the land of Israel." The government of Israel offered a ceremonious welcome, with Minister of Absorption David Levy uttering some words of rebuke to the rest of the world: "Let them do as we have. May they lend a hand to save women and children who are in the heart of the sea without a homeland, and lead them to safe shores

To: Greg or e who wrote (40192)	8/9/2013 1:34:44 AM
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Besides prophets & messiahs of old , men also have occupied many other valuable asset roles that convey valuable information; of statesman/ leaders, philosophers/ poets, scientists, doctors/healers, explorers/traders, captains/pilots, farmers & harvestors, craftsman/builders, artists/musicians, weaver/designers. And to a certain extent we were all these things from the very beginning gathered around some fire 1mil yrs ago, painting rock & cave walls, orderly piling up stones, chipping flints, beating on some skin drums & weaving baskets. Then there was Shakespeare.... Then there's the monkeys throwing mud like greggy, people who if reproduced too often in too large numbers would see all community colleges go immediately out of business & up for sale, the end of civilization as we know it. ;o)