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To: RMF who wrote (52061)	8/29/2013 5:45:00 AM
From: Bearcatbob	3 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 dave rose Jorj X Mckie Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 85487

You really think all those scientists are just lying about the whole thing? Yes some are. The history of that is clear. Many more simply see the results they want as it is in their financial interest. Also, you need to do some research on who "those scientists" are and what they truly believe. 1. Of those surveyed - how many have a financial interest in pushing AGW? 2. Of those surveyed - how many simply acknowledge the world has warmed and do not claim to know why? 3. Of those surveyed -how many actually believe AGW can be modeled? BTW - are we not past the tipping point? Also, do you think lies and scare mongering in anyway further the cause? Aren't we seeing the Arctic ice melting? I keep hearing about new shipping lanes opening up and countries fighting over drill rights in areas that weren't accessible before. Yup - but not this year. Also, the real question is why. We're also hearing about islands disappearing or at least shrinking do to rising ocean levels. Boy - I'd like to know what islands have disappeared. You think the whole thing is a crock or maybe it's being caused do to changes in the sun? A crock - yes largely. I keep coming back to why those who scream the loudest fight implementation of energy sources that could actually help. It makes one think the agenda is not AGW. When I am threatened and lied to I simply have a hard believing the liars and thugs have a worthy argument. Bob

To: RMF who wrote (52061)	8/29/2013 12:05:02 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Recommended By FJB Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 85487

"Aren't we seeing the Arctic ice melting? I keep hearing about new shipping lanes opening up and countries fighting over drill rights in areas that weren't accessible before." 69% Increase In Arctic Ice Since Last Year Posted on August 28, 2013by stevengoddard Green represents ice present in 2013 which was not present in 2012. Red shows the opposite. Arctic Sea-Ice Monitor

To: RMF who wrote (52061)	8/29/2013 12:06:41 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 FJB Respond to of 85487

"We're also hearing about islands disappearing or at least shrinking do to rising ocean levels." false William And Kate Travel To Topless Island Posted on September 19, 2012by stevengoddard Tuvalu is supposed to be the first victim of climate change, except for the minor detail that sea level isn’t rising there. Prince William and Kate Middleton continued a tour of the Pacific with a visit to the tiny island nation of Tuvalu yesterday. For more than a decade the so-called ‘sinking island’ has been held up as an example of the dangers of manmade climate change yet the duke and duchess cannot see the effects because there are none. Duke and Duchess of Cambridge visit supposed island casualty of global warming – National Climate Change \| Examiner.com psmsl.org

To: RMF who wrote (52061)	8/29/2013 12:08:30 PM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 FJB Respond to of 85487

"You think the whole thing is a crock or maybe it's being caused do to changes in the sun?" there has been no warming for 16 years. Just earth's and solar cycles. was warmer during the roman era and the end of the dark ages, why di the dark ages end, warming. Warming has been bery bery good to humans