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To: KyrosL who wrote (230329)	8/29/2013 4:33:43 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542153

Correlation and causation have to be proved to be the same, not just assumed. You would need data sets from various countries with various levels of welfare systems, then adjust for a bunch of cultural variables in each society and between them, and a few zillion other things I can think of offhand. Beware simple graphs. I do see on curious thing, which is that the rate of increase since 1990 is much higher in the white community.

To: KyrosL who wrote (230329)	8/29/2013 4:41:50 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542153

I'd say there's absolutely no shame in single parenthood as compared to the past. Young women today feel completely free to have children with no husband, and many choose to do so.

To: KyrosL who wrote (230329)	8/29/2013 5:15:33 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542153

Whoever disagrees with Moynihan must explain this: Lots of confusion here. That's, of course, not Moynihan's argument, per se. More than that, there are assumptions within assumptions as to the meaning of these rates. I see Dale mentions the correlation/causation issue. That leaps to mind. I haven't read the serious literature lately on child rearing in single parent homes or out of wedlock birth homes but I wouldn't be surprised to find that if the research controlled for the obvious variables--income and education levels, there was little, if any difference, between those families and married families. I'm afraid what you've done is simply throw your preferences/prejudices into a chart for us to see.