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To: JohnM who wrote (230870)	9/3/2013 12:47:30 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542148

Two very significant problems with welfare are: 1) It entraps the current recipients 2) It entraps subsequent generations as well. I agree with you that I would love to spare the kids of the current recipients. But keeping their parents on welfare is likely the single most destructive thing. Kids learn from their parents. Their parents learn from others on welfare. The welfare providers learn from their clients and everyone helps each other stay on the dole. You should hang out in trailer parks and get to know some of them. I don't want to see people starving, especially kids, so I have no problem with assistance, and I have no problem with some of that assistance coming from my pocket. I just would like to make sure that the money coming from my pocket is not in fact doing damage, which is what most of welfare does. Lack of food and lack of shelter are terrible things, and so is destroying the will to go out and fight for a living. Welfare does the latter to millions of people, under the guise of addressing the former problems. Unintended consequences... So change welfare into something that provides the needed basics of life, while also keeping the individuals firmly engaged in the process of earning their own living.

To: JohnM who wrote (230870)	9/3/2013 1:03:09 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 542148

I'd like to see welfare made less comfortable, more visible, and less socially acceptable. I think we should build barracks-style housing, like our current homeless shelters, but with enough capacity so that no one would be turned away, as with our current homeless shelters. Barracks would be separated by sexes and a separate one or two for kids of different ages. Kids would be bussed to school in the day. Eliminate food stamps. If a family needed food, they could move into one of the shelters. Food would be provided by the facility, in cafeterias. Common areas would be provided so families could get together when not sleeping. Give everyone access to common phones and internet, and encourage them to look for work. Provide them with an address and phone number with someone to answer and get them. Assist them in getting to work. From having provided several homeless people a room in my house upon getting a job, I know that living in those conditions is not fun, easy or something anyone wants to put up with a moment longer than necessary. As it should be.