To: Alighieri who wrote (737669 ) 9/6/2013 11:44:26 PM From: i-node Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1578689 >> You certainly are stubborn if nothing else. I'm stubborn, but there are good reasons for it. I look around me, and there isn't a well-functioning government operated program anywhere in sight, particularly in the health care field. Pretty much everything they've touched has turned to crap -- Medicare, Medicaid, and now the relatively free-market portion of the health care economy. There is zero doubt it will be disaster. We are getting tons upon tons of propaganda right now -- from various "think tanks" to organizations like Kaiser who have no choice but to like it. The liberal bloggers have been called on the carpet by Obama for not promoting it heavily enough, so they're now out trying to turn bad into good. There is zero percent probably of this working out well for most Americans. Even the damned unions have turned against it, and you KNOW it has to be horribly bad for them not to support it. You realize these starting rates don't mean anything, right? They're designed to get people onboard with these new products, knowing full well the states will have no choice but to allow them to raise rates in a big way. It should be clear to you, when major players in the insurance business have said, "We don't think we want to get involved in California or New York." Why do you think that is? That's before you even consider the devastation it is bringing into the job markets (and today, the liberal economists are out in force propagandizing on THAT, too). This is a sales job, nothing more. At the end of the day, you cannot do away with centuries of economic knowledge by passing a law.