To: Alighieri who wrote (737844 ) 9/7/2013 10:07:54 PM From: i-node Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578965 ""Health care costs under IBM's current plan options for Medicare eligible retirees will nearly triple by 2020, significantly impacting your premium and out of pocket costs," the notice said." Sounds like they don't have a great deal of confidence that Obamacare is going to reduce health care costs, doesn't it? Your snide remark concerning what I do or don't know about it, notwithstanding, I would just point out to you that the federal government has NEVER, since 1965, been able to project health care costs correctly, and in practically every instance (other than Part D) they've been vastly off by understating, not overstating the cost. And not by a little. We're talking hundreds of percentage points, in some cases thousands. Which gives me a great deal of confidence in saying, "they're going to miss it by a mile." Whenever government tries to do something to "help" people, it consistently has backfired. Whether it is Social Security (a program that is now nearly 10 trillion in debt), Medicare (a program that is between 50 and 100 trillion in debt, depending on how you count it), Medicaid (which has left every single state in debt), or a plethora of other failed welfare programs. It NEVER works out well for the people of the country. It is very difficult for someone who actually thinks about this stuff to understand why anyone would expect anything different from a program that was so poorly planned they can't even begin to get it off the ground on time. It obviously will kill innovation, increase costs, and result in a substantial decline in the quality of care. But it IS a liberal program. And that's what some people want, regardless of how bad it is.