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To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 1:13:40 PM
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To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 1:15:33 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1583412
 
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To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 1:20:48 PM
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*** The only relevant finding from that piece: "Only 28% approve of the president’s handling of Syria, which is a 7-point decline from an NBC poll released late last month. (Think about that: The Commander-in-Chief doesn’t even have a third of the country approving of his handling on Syria.)."



To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 1:24:55 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1583412
 
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To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 1:50:01 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583412
 
Bentway,
It’s a reminder that Americans’ attitudes about politics often depend on if “their guy” is sitting in the Oval Office.
How many liberals on this thread support intervening in Syria just because Obama is "their guy"?

The answer is none. Party loyalty can only go so far.

Tenchusatsu



To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 2:50:25 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583412
 
"Back in 2005 when George W. Bush was in office, 60% of GOP respondents agreed with the statement that the America must promote democracy and freedom around the world, rather than focus on domestic problems at home. Now? Just 19% of Republicans believe this. (By comparison, the Democratic numbers have been pretty consistent: In 2005, 14% agreed with focusing on democracy and freedom abroad; now it’s 28%.)"

It seems to me the facts support a conclusion that is 180 degrees opposite what the writer (whoever it was) claims.

After all, it was Barack Obama who criticized the Freedom Agenda heavily. Perhaps he persuaded people?

More likely, however, people have simply re-thought the situation after Iraq; most people acted like Democrats (i.e., when the going gets tough, we wish like hell we hadn't supported it and will claim we didn't until people believe that bullshit).

I think I'm probably the about only one on this thread who still believes the Iraq War was the right thing to have done -- regardless of political affiliation or leaning. Because the decision is made when you make the decision, not after you know how it turned out (this is the way Kerry, Hillary and others did it.)

And there is a legitimate concern among a lot of people (me included) that might be more inclined to support the Syria action were a competent leader in office. I think most people recognize that Obama is totally out of his league in foreign affairs at this point, and certainly when it comes to war.

You can't just blindly blame this difference on party affiliation when there are clearly other identifiable reasons for the shifts in attitude.



To: bentway who wrote (738358)9/10/2013 3:03:21 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1583412
 
Obama promotes "democracy" by giving Egypt to the muslim brotherhood and backing al quada in Libya and Syria.