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To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:32:31 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 1583834
 
And they will all liver happily thereafter....THE END.

ROTFLMAO!!!!



To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:32:42 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1583834
 
Lefty combelly is now a military 'expert.'



To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:41:04 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1583834
 
"Kerry make a slip like some claim and the gods decided to intervene?"

Although I'd LOVE that it was a subtle, masterful plan, I have to go with the above. I can't see Obama signing off on a "plan" that leaves them looking like lucky fools.

But, you're right, Russia has to follow through, especially right before the Sochi Olympics. The thing is, by the time the truth is known, we'll both be dead.



To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:44:48 PM
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Putin Didn't Save Obama, He Beat Him
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The Weekly Standard ^ | Sep 10, 2013 | Lee Smith


Maybe Barack Obama and Vladimir Putin really did discuss the idea of putting Syrian chemical weapons under international control last week on the sidelines of the G20 conference. Putin sure doesn’t care that Obama’s taking credit for the proposal, or that the administration is posturing like a Mob enforcer. “The only reason why we are seeing this proposal,” said White House spokesman Jay Carney, “is because of the U.S. threat of military action.”

Right, Putin is laughing to himself. Whatever. If Obama wants to sell it like a Christmas miracle on Pennsylvania Avenue that’s fine with Putin, because Putin won.

Reset with Russia was originally a strategic priority for the Obama administration because it saw Moscow as the key to getting Iran to come to the negotiating table. Putin, from the White House’s perspective, was destined for the role of junior partner. Now Putin has turned “Reset” upside down. By helping Obama out of a jam with Syria, Putin has made himself the senior partner to whom the White House is now beholden. Accordingly, when Putin proposes the same sort of deal with Iran, with Russia having established its bona fides as an interlocutor for Syria, Obama is almost certain to jump at it.

What’s unclear is whether Obama understands that his foreign policy legacy will be to have ruined the American position in the Middle East, our patrimony of the last seven decades. If the 1979 takeover of the U.S. embassy in Tehran signaled weakness, the Russian deal screams surrender. The real surprise is that it’s not Iran kicking the United States out of the region under Obama’s watch, but Putin. . . .

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To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:45:24 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1583834
 
Obama administration makes Putin, Russians look like the good guys
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Washington Times ^ | Sept 10, 2013 | by Thomas Mullen


TAMPA, September 10, 2013 – Syrian foreign minister Walid al-Moallem said earlier today that his government would accept the proposal to surrender its chemical weapons for destruction by the international community, according to the Associated Press. The proposal was made by the Russian government in an attempt to avoid U.S. airstrikes in reprisal for alleged chemical weapons attacks by its Syrian counterpart against rebels and civilians on Aug. 21.

The Syrian government has consistently denied launching the attacks.

President Obama has now reportedly changed the goal of his meetings today with Congressmen from persuading them to approve his military strikes to participating in the diplomatic solution. This begs an obvious question.

Why was it Russia that proposed a diplomatic solution, while the Nobel Peace Prize-winning U.S. president would consider nothing but war?

Indeed, Russian president Vladimir Putin has consistently been a calm voice of restraint and caution during the entire crisis, while Obama has sounded more like Khrushchev than Kennedy.

Syria is a longtime Russian ally and the home to Russia’s only military base outside its borders. The U.S. threats of military action against Syria is only the latest in a long train of provocative actions by the U.S. government towards its former Cold War adversary. As Pat Buchanan wrote in the American Conservative,

“George W. Bush sought to put an anti-missile system in Poland and the Czech Republic. Neither country had requested it. We said it was aimed at Iran. When my late friend, columnist Tony Blankley, visited Russia in the Bush II era, he was astounded at the hostility he encountered from Russians who felt we had responded to their offer of friendship at the end of the Cold War by taking advantage of them.”

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To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:46:58 PM
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Ex-EPA chief Lisa Jackson denies trying to avoid transparency laws
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The Washington Times ^ | September 10, 2013 | Stephan Dinan


Former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa P. Jackson told Congress on Tuesday that she didn’t abuse her official email accounts, nor did she use her own private account to try to circumvent open-records laws.



Ms. Jackson, who used an email under the name “Richard Windsor” at EPA, said she was just following the practice of former administrators of both parties. And she said she tried to make sure that any business mail sent to her own private account was also forwarded to her official account, where it was subject to open-records laws.



“On one hand, there can certainly be honest and reasoned debate over my judgments, and on the other hand, there are some who want to theorize that there is a hidden agenda,” she told the House oversight committee in her prepared statement. “The principle reason I wanted to come here today is to make it perfectly clear that it was my practice to ensure that any official business conducted by me or through my email accounts was appropriately captured for record keeping purposes.”

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To: combjelly who wrote (738439)9/10/2013 3:51:54 PM
From: one_less  Respond to of 1583834
 
It is stunning because it averted an impending crisis, at least for the moment.

The question (Assuming, as Pelosi claims, that it was Obama's strong stance that brought it about) is whether Putin or Obama looks better as a result of this. Obviously political perspective has something to do with it but in the eyes of an unbiased observer, I suppose the image of each leader was improved to some extent maybe even just because we can breath a little easier.