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To: Road Walker who wrote (739624)	9/15/2013 11:37:20 PM
From: i-node	1 Recommendation Recommended By Jorj X Mckie Respond to of 1578302

>> False, but still doesn't address the point. The most successful countries in the world have the largest central governments, and the most regulation. The least successful countries in the world have little effective regulation, poor rule of law and corruption. IT ISN'T false and it does address the point. But your suggestion, that more regulation and bigger government breeds success, is just absurd. The US is still riding on the coattails of the 1950s and early 60s. It is a natural tendency for governments to get bigger and more intrusive over time. They've been doing it for centuries. Unfortunately, it is a bad side effect of democracy. Ours can be fixed but not through the traditional channels. We need constitutional amendments to fix the problems (balanced budget, term limits, impose some control on the courts, kill the commerce clause, etc.) It isn't about ideology. It is about common sense. You can't just keep spending our kids' (and their kids') money like this. Aside from the moral issue (which is pretty damned serious, if you ask me), they're just not going to allow it. At some point, they'll just say, "No more."

To: Road Walker who wrote (739624)	9/16/2013 5:45:22 AM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578302

Hi Road Walker; Re: "The most successful countries in the world have the largest central governments, and the most regulation." Not sure what you mean by "successful" but if you're including the US as a success, I would argue that you've got the cause and effect reversed. Only the most successful countries can afford the kind of crap the US does. Certainly the US government was a tiny tiny fraction of the country during the time in which it outgrew the rest of the world. And once you're the hegemon, you can do pretty much what you want; power brings its own power and inertia will keep you on top for quite some time. Even with all the unnecessary stuff that goes on in the US, this is still, by and large, the best place in the world to do business. That's not because of the government, but instead is because of several facts. First, most governments in other large countries are worse than the US. Second, the US is a huge economy with everything to buy and everyone you need to sell to conveniently located. Finally, the division into states means that different parts of the country are slightly better for different company types. It's like having 50 individual countries available to choose among. This gets back to the drum I've been beating for years. The power of the US is not in its military. The power of the US is business. The military is a big drag on our country. If we let the Left gut our military power (but leave the rest of the country alone) we would find ourself growing more powerful and our international relations would improve. But the Left would gut our business before they touch the military and Obama is pretty good proof. -- Carl