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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (180557)9/16/2013 7:57:57 AM
From: Ditchdigger  Respond to of 206219
 
Thought I read last year that DOW Chemical had NG hedges out 10 years.



To: Bearcatbob who wrote (180557)9/16/2013 8:19:55 AM
From: Ken Robbins  Respond to of 206219
 
The New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX)lists NG futures going out to Dec. 2025.

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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (180557)9/16/2013 10:08:59 AM
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  Respond to of 206219
 
Also, could not a utility buy gas reserves in the ground and simply own the gas at cost?
I don't think many reservoirs have a 30+ year life. Also, most utilities are regulated entities. They have no particular incentive to lock-in gas prices. If gas prices go up, they get to raise the price of their electricity.

There's actually a paradox that took me a while to appreciate. Low natural gas prices actually hurt the profits of most electric utilities. I can't say I fully understand the dynamics, but to some extent overall prices seem to be related to prices for peaking plant supply, which are generally natural-gas driven.

Peter



To: Bearcatbob who wrote (180557)9/16/2013 11:03:06 AM
From: teevee  Respond to of 206219
 
Also, could not a utility buy gas reserves in the ground and simply own the gas at cost?


I am not sure about today, however in the recent past, a few utilities have actually had a subsidiary nat gas E & P. If I recall correctly, a utility in Montana used to have a Canadian subsidiary E & P.



To: Bearcatbob who wrote (180557)9/16/2013 3:35:18 PM
From: Sweet Ol  Respond to of 206219
 
BC,

Our gas ute, Okla Nat Gas, has a subsidiary that is a major gas E&P here in OK. It is my understanding that they produce more than they use. Their retail price is set by the regulators at some sort of average price. So they profit no matter what Nattie price does.

Blessings,

JRH