To: Brumar89 who wrote (41765 ) 9/17/2013 3:20:11 PM From: Brumar89 Respond to of 69300 Tom Wolfe at Socrates lecture where Steve Meyer spoke? So says Emily Belz at World Magazine:Stephen Meyer, one of the founders of the intelligent design theory, spoke at a Socrates in the City lecture in New York on Thursday evening, explaining his newest book Darwin’s Doubt and the latest in scientific debates over the origin of life. The room was packed with New Yorkers in snappy evening wear, as well as the famous journalist Tom Wolfe, in his signature white suit. Her article identifies “growing subterranean dissent” from Darwinism. Sure, but Tom “ Bonfire of the Vanities ” Wolfe’s dissent isn’t exactly subterranean. He has said openly (2005),“Look at Darwin. My God, what a powerful theory.” But he added, “Incidentally, I give that one about 40 more years, and it will go down in flames. ” And he isn’t one to shy away from controversy, as Bonfire demonstrated. Straw. Wind.uncommondescent.com GilDodgen September 16, 2013 at 9:35 pm The fact that dissent is “subterranean” is very telling. Dissent from the notion that random errors — whether filtered by natural selection or not — can produce the most sophisticated information-processing machinery ever discovered or even imagined, should be shouted from the rooftops by anyone with even a modicum of familiarity with the evidence and an IQ above room temperature. Subterraneanism is evidence of the power of anti-science Darwinian indoctrination and intimidation, and nothing else. 2 Bruce David September 17, 2013 at 1:06 am Some changes appear to happen in the world quite suddenly and unexpectedly, like the demise of the soviet Union or the death of an ecosystem. What has happened, of course, is that the forces producing the change were happening below the surface, unnoticed by nearly everyone until the change suddenly manifests. I see this happening with Darwinism. More and more scientists are realizing that Darwinism just doesn’t explain what it claims to explain, but most of them remain “subterranean” out of a quite justified fear of reprisals and a reluctance to buck the consensus. But one morning they are going to wake up, look around them, and notice that except for a small minority of diehards, everyone else realizes it too. Then, in what appears to be a sudden shift, Darwinism will “go down in flames” and the Dawkins of the world will wonder what hit them. Personally, I don’t give it anything like 40 years. I’d be surprised if it takes more than 10. ....