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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (27307)	9/18/2013 7:51:37 AM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

any fool that claims it isn't killing jobs is spewing fairy tales. It is pretty obvious when you see part-time hires outpacing full-time by a ratio of 6 to 1 this year, that something is causing it. Perhaps this is a definitional thing. To me, job killing means that the number of jobs is reduced. A part-time job may be less valuable than a full-time job but a job is still a job. It's the difference between being unemployed and employed. Actually, more part-time jobs can mean more jobs because, if the workload is constant, it would take maybe four workers to do the work of three full-timers.

To: i-node who wrote (27307)	9/18/2013 1:55:57 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

but any fool that claims it isn't killing jobs is spewing fairy tales Then perhaps the fool that says it is can present his evidence......or are just supposed to accept you as the source??. EXCEPT, fewer doctors are apparently going to accept a given insurance. Would like to see the evidence of this also........we already know that at least 95% are accepting Medicare.... If they choose not accept those insurances how will they replace those customers??? No one around these parts has trouble finding a doc who won't accept their insurance. Up to this point the group I go to accepts 15-20 plans....things, I would assume, are going to get simpler for them..

To: i-node who wrote (27307)	9/19/2013 2:19:15 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

but any fool that claims it isn't killing jobs is spewing fairy tales. It is pretty obvious when you see part-time hires outpacing full-time by a ratio of 6 to 1 this year, that something is causing it I suppose they could argue the technicality that part time jobs are still jobs. An in fact with more part timers there will probably be more total people employed then there otherwise would have been (just fewer total hours). Its a technicality not something actually meaningful. And it might not even be true as a technicality, there would be a certain degree of economic cost despite the efforts to get around it, and a higher number of part time jobs then full time jobs to get the same work done might not make up for it. Also I notice their argument for it being false is "but experts predict a small impact on mainly low-wage jobs"; but even if that war right it would mean that the claim of killing jobs is also correct, just a smaller effect.