To: Brumar89 who wrote (41879 ) 9/21/2013 1:32:51 AM From: 2MAR$ Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300 Christian civilization ....Christianity certainly represents cultural change phenomenon wintnessed many times before when civilizations & empires start to endure stress and enter marked phases of ascent & decline. One superstition got replaced by another in the religious sphere of human imagination, but much of the "civilization" was already in place. Also you mean the term "Judeo/ Christian" that was leaned on propaganda pushed heavily by conservative thinkers and journalists since the 1950s? Stressing common ethical standards of Christianity and Judaism? Such simplemended thinking, good luck with establishing that one umbrella of an American civil religion but the implicent tolerance it finally showed for Jewish/Christian relations is certainly one good advance . One easily can embrace that long lost tolerance finally, from a humanist pov. How many centuries were Jews to endure a super accentuated Christian persecution? No can rewrite history better than Christians and you wonder why there's been such strength & spectacular growth in the secular world? Even the growth of tolerance just between the various Christian sects was such a torturous road, no wonder during the wild industrial revolution that followed, such experiments as Communism & Marxism that followed? Humanism seems to have won in the end, reason & moderation of dogma and the rise of common sense & rationalty. Look at you, learning a little each day, but what selective ignorant maroon you are, typical of Abrahamic religions which rely so heavily on fake history, stories so out of date to be rediculous. (except to rural Americans that buy the propaganda, pass the BBQ)