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To: Brumar89 who wrote (41977)	9/22/2013 11:40:01 AM
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Challenging historical black & white fundamentalist pov's is not anti Judeo/Christian, the focuss & direction is always pointed towards countering fundmentalist & radical dogmatist ideologies and their skewed histories. The same discussions happen everyday in Israel & the ME, between people of moderated philosophical leaning, progressives & radical religious based traditionalist factions. Perhaps try more honesty when you post grandpa, though we know its really hard for you? .

To: Brumar89 who wrote (41977)	9/22/2013 12:02:40 PM
From: 2MAR$	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

One wonders just how long you can afford to keep pursuing this old repetitive anti-secular crusade against science, you really think you have that much time to waste? It just seems quite odd, given so many current examples of fundamentalist religious violence in the world and sciences tend to generally enlighten more, why would you choose to undermine what does liberate & empower people in the end? And what's your approach analyzing this latest suicide bombing in Pakistan if you really want to seek clarity? There's religious prophecy & there's the world as it really is and whats going on here is not new, how do you stop this violence & pain? This is pure Darwinism at work here, you can quote more scripture or start to call it what it really is, not giving any escape & justification thru the usual religious based propaganda & irrationality. Suicide bombers kill 60 Christians outside Pakistan church telegraph.co.uk Religious violence and attacks on security forces have been on the rise in Pakistan in past months, undermining Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's efforts to tame the insurgency after coming to power in June. Two suicide bombers are believed to have entered the All Saints Church after shooting dead police guards, and detonated their explosive vests. A Pakistani man helps an injured victim of a suicide attack at a church in Peshawar, Pakistan (AP) Police said 350 members of the congregation were in the church when the bombers struck and that the death toll is expected to increase because many were being treated in hospital are in a critical condition. Dr Iqbal Afridi, medical superintendent at the city’s Lady Reading Hospital said he had declared a medical emergency and all leave for surgeons had been cancelled. Related Articles Christians demand separate province in Pakistan to protect them from persecution 30 Aug 2012 Mob burns Christian homes in Pakistani city 10 Mar 2013 Christian boy tortured and killed in Pakistan 23 Aug 2012 Pakistani Christian on death row cooks own meals for fear of being poisoned 26 Dec 2011 Pakistan faces Christian protest after eight 'burned alive' 03 Aug 2009 People gather outside the Christian church after the twin suicide bombings in Peshawar (EPA) “The number of dead and will be more than 200 because the Church was full to its capacity,” one worshipper, Caroline White, told The Telegraph. She said something which sounded like a firecracker was thrown at the church before a huge explosion. The police had failed to properly protect the church, she added. Medics help a young victim of the suicide bombing in Peshawar (EPA) Sahibzada Anees, a local government official, told Associated Press the Sunday service is popular because worshippers receive a free meal on the lawn in front of the church following Mass. The white walls and the floor of the church, which was built in 1851, were stained with blood and splattered with rice. Parishioners said survivors were crying and hugging one another after the explosion, which had turned the church into a scene of carnage.