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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (740933)	9/22/2013 1:19:01 AM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1576165

>> (And IMO capitalism is much more conducive to charitable giving than socialism, but that's beside the point.) I'm not sure it is beside the point. These guys constantly complain about "capitalism" and "free enterprise" and all of the social ills associated with them. But the reality is that capitalism and free enterprise have done more for the poor than any other system in existence. So, I think it is an excellent point; Jesus would have undoubtedly found capitalism more attractive than any alternative we know of.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (740933)	9/22/2013 1:22:35 AM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576165

Cailfornia May Allow Noncitizens to Sit on Juries SUPPORTERS OF LAW SAY IT'S ABOUT 'DISCRIMINATION' By Ruth Brown, Newser Staff newser.com Posted Sep 21, 2013 2:38 PM CDT (NEWSER) – California has recently passed a number of new bills that would expand the rights of permanent noncitizens: allowing them to monitor polls during elections; making drivers licenses available to unauthorized immigrants; and allowing those who were brought illegally to the US to practice law. But the newly passed law that has proved most controversial in the state is one that would allow noncitizens to sit on juries, reports the New York Times. "What would be the next reform? Allowing noncitizens to vote?" wrote George Skelton in the LA Times last month, one of several newspaper editorials urging the state's governor not to sign the bill. "This issue isn't about discrimination. ... Nothing prevents a legal immigrant of whatever color from taking a course on Americanism and becoming a naturalized citizen." But Bob Wieckowski, the Democratic assemblyman who sponsored the bill, counters that being a citizen doesn't make you a better juror. "You don’t release your prejudices or histories just because you take an oath of citizenship, and you don’t lose the ability to listen to testimony impartially just because you haven’t taken that oath either." Wieckowski says 15% of those summoned for jury duty never show up, and this measure will make impaneling juries easier. He believes Gov. Brown will sign the bill into law. "It’s the same thing that happened with gay marriage," he says, "people got past their initial prejudices and realized it was just discrimination."

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (740933)	9/22/2013 12:24:35 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1576165

Several places in the Bible. en.m.wikipedia.org tryingtofollow.com In short, you can't go to Heaven if you are wealthy. In fact, you can't even be a follower unless you give away everything. I don't see where you get that he was OK with accumulating wealth. This seems pretty clear Matthew 6:19-21 — “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.” [cf. Luke 12:34] Your statement about charity is a pretty feeble attempt to justify the unjustifiable.