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To: Solon who wrote (42109)	9/23/2013 11:10:54 AM
From: 2MAR$	2 Recommendations Recommended By average joe Solon Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

There's a common internet saying ; "dont feed the trolls" responding to gregee is the equivilent of feeding laughing gas to an orangutan no smarter, just more comical. Never in my life have encountered this kind of deliberate grunge of mindset <gg

To: Solon who wrote (42109)	9/23/2013 11:14:18 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

Iqbal writes more scathing words & thoughts this am, targeting fundmentalists in Pakistan events from Paris: facebook.com!/ikelatif (I was wrong before he's from Pakistan not Iran) Know your history this region, for a full 1000 years you wanted to create ruled and the rulers, there is a strong ambivalence when Muslim consider their horseback invasions as their rights to rule India, the Muslim rule was nothing but effort of Northerners to submit the entire majority Hindus of India to a rule that had all the makings of bloodiest internecine wars. 'Hindustan per muscleman non... nay Badshai nahin khudai kee thee.' Maulana Abu Kakam Azad The time of that incessant desire of Khudai is up, learn to live not as subject but as equals only, the dream of reconquesita is up. What democracy, what freedom of dissent, what freedom of expression you can show? You either condemn them now or be considered as a silent partners of the great dream of the great ghazwa that Zahid Hamid talks about. How can you love mankind, when you hate each other with so much detestation. You blow each other apart with million different interpretations, no mosque is holy enough, no corporeal existence important enough. Is it not a 'divine' curse to be so hateful to each other, grow up I am an ordinary man, I am just showing you the mirror that reflects your ugly mindset and abhorrent devilish existence. Change it to instal love, love each other instead of blowing each other out of existence. These atrocities are not humane or even near humane, these are animalistic and let me be very clear on that.

To: Solon who wrote (42109)	9/23/2013 11:18:17 AM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

He writes on Talibanic origins here ; A study into the 'philosophy' of Imam Ibn Taymiyah and 'Takfir!' It never started with Russian invasion of Afghanistan or the Jihad-phobia of 'Mard-e-Momin Ziaul Haq.' These events only help expedite the journey to the bottom of the hole. Please kindly read revisit the history If you don't know who Imam Ibn Taymiyah was? You will not know what are the actual roots of a 'Talibenic mindset! ' This is the history of 'philosophical origins' of terror killing rampant nowadays in the name of 'Takfir.' If you don't comprehend and fully recognise the jurisprudence of 'Takfir' and trace the original author of this concept; you will not understand the origins of the violence within the realms of political Islam that has become so unbridled. The roots of modern-day Salafis/Wahabbism/Talibanization dates back to the 13th century to a man known as Ibn Taymiyah. Though it wasn’t until the 18th century when a man by the name of Muhammad ibn Abdul Wahhab brought about a transformation that changed the course of Islam until then the Hanbali thought dominated, though an active subterranean puritan movement of Ahle- Salaf was raising its tentacles. The beginning of the end: Ibn Taymiyah in the 13th century approved of the Hanbali school of thought which was found by the scholar Imam Hanbal during the 9th century. Sunni scholars painstakingly referred him as outside the nexus/hub of Islam. His new-fangled ideological philosophy using the explanation of reviving Islam’s basic teachings reinserted a new puritanical violent thought that of the concept of Takfir. The scholars from all four schools of thought ordered Ibn Taymiyah imprisonment due to their undisputed view' that Ibn Taymiyah had perceptibly and deliberately wandered off the rightly ordained trail and discarded the instilled 'benevolence and magnanimity' in favour of 'puritanical obstructions.' Ibn Taymiyah considered acts like visiting graves to treasure dead ones as faithlessness and 'Shirk.' Predominantly the Shias and the Muslims who ascribed to Sufi tendencies suffred the full brunt and were declared heretics. Ibn Taymiyah reasoned them as infidels and condoned their the slaughter as legitimate. 'Taliban' today following those injunctions kill fellow brothers Muslims with equal enthusiasm in the name of Takfir. It was Ibn Taymiyah’s verdict on Takfir that is the major contention today in 'Majmu’a al-Fatawa (Compilation of Religious Verdicts),' Ibn Taymiyah wrote: “Nay it is known from the Salaf Imams that Takfir (to be considered non-Muslim) be issued against anyone that says that Quran is created he must repent or otherwise be killed.” “To recite the intention loudly is not permissible according to the Muslim scholars, nor did the Prophet, Caliphs or Sahaba, Salaf or Imams perform it. Whoever claims it is Wajib (compulsory), he must be taught the law and then to repent from that opinion. If he insists on it then he must be killed.” http://iqballatif.newsvine.com/...

To: Solon who wrote (42109)	9/23/2013 3:50:13 PM
From: 2MAR$	Respond to of 69300

It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.~Voltaire more from Paris...