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Biotech / Medical : PLSIA (Premier Laser Systems) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Westergaard who wrote (1377)	12/9/1997 11:35:00 AM
From: Pluvia	Respond to of 1773

John Westergaard, You wrote about me: <<<He has not been heard from since with false or misleading postings because he knows that to do so would be a violation of the cease and desist order to which he is subject. >>> You are wrong John, I have been around and active with my posts just as before, but where have you been? You failed to back up your accusations when you put out a $5,000 reward for information about me, claiming I was posting false and misleading information, now you falsely indicate a "Cease and Desist Order" has been served on me. Wrong again John, and another case of you making damaging defamatory claims against me. And I suspect, as you did in the past, you will now run away like a whimpering dog with your tail between your legs. John, let me ask you one more time -- since you have never backed up any of your past accusations -- could point out where I posted anything that was false and misleading either currently or in the past? And one other point John. Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought a "Cease and Desist Order" had to be issued from a judge for me to "subject" as you say to any such order. There is no such "order", and I dare say there never will be one. I was sent a letter from PLSIA's attorneys Ruttan & Tucker which I posted on the Pluvia vs Westergaard thread. But, IMO if the information in the letter from Ruttan and Tucker was ever argued before a judge -- it would be laughed out of court. The letter -- which I posted on Pluvia vs Westergaard, Message 2213854 was IMO another scare tactic from PLSIA, and without any factual basis. I'll give you several examples from the letter of why I say that: <snip> <<<<This firm represents Premier Laser Systems, Inc. (the "Company"). We are contacting you in connection with statements made on the Internet concerning the Company, which statements have been attributed to you, using the pseudonym "Pluvia." These statements have been made over a period of several months, and include, among many others, statements that: 1. All of the Company's Common Stock to be issued in the EyeSys transaction will be freely tradeable within three months. 2. The Company did not build 15 ER:YAG lasers during the June 30, 1997 quarter. 3. There were no users of the ER:YAG laser until mid to late August. 4. The Company's training classes are not full. 5. The Company has nothing to sell besides the ER:YAG laser.>>>>> <snip> OK as to question: 1. I did not say that. 2. I did not say that either. 3. I did not say that . 4. I did say that -- and the company admitted their training was slow in a press release prior to the date Ruttan and Tucker sent me this letter. Der her. 5. I never said that either. Heck everything I said was in the form of written posts -- I would have to assume either PLSIA's attorneys are so lazy they don't research their accusations before they make them, or, they intentionally made false accusations to try to intimidate and quiet one of PLSIA's critics. Neither option makes PLSIA or Ruttan & Tucker look good. So once again John Westergaard you make a false, damaging claim about me by indicating I am subject to a court order that does not exist. John this is an official demand for you to stop making false and damaging claims about me and for you to print a formal retraction for all of you present and past accusations which are all without merit.. John, look for some correspondence from me soon. Cheers Steve

To: Westergaard who wrote (1377)	12/9/1997 11:49:00 AM
From: WTMHouston	Respond to of 1773

John: guess you didn't state it too well again. Seems as though you suffer from the same problems attributed to PLSIA: making statements that aren't true or are exagerations and then having to retreat when the inaccuracy is spotted. <<I didn't state it well. He has not been heard from since with false or misleading postings because he knows that to do so would be a violation of the cease and desist order to which he is subject.>> Steve asks a fair question: he and everyone else are still waiting for you to document anything about his prior postings (as you promised you would) that were "false or misleading." Since you have previously admitted that you were incorrect in accusing him of making "false or misleading" statements, don't you think it is a little hypocritical for you to now imply that they were false and misleading? Troy