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To: Snowshoe who wrote (103016)	10/2/2013 8:20:51 PM
From: Tommaso	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217654

So where is that? I live in a place that has all the amenities you mention, and maybe more, but has no beach, no mountains, no lake, no river, no desert, no mature forests, and really nothing but the sky to look at. There are some very nice parks and trails. And lots of neighborhood pools and tennis courts. But I do envy you a wild beach. EDIT: I am in 4 hours driving from the highest mountains in the eastern United States and in the other direction, 4 hours from hundreds of miles of excellent beaches and estuaries. But would rather have something like that beach within 20 minutes.

To: Snowshoe who wrote (103016)	10/2/2013 8:22:47 PM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 217654

landed in hong kong @ 7:00am breezed through immigration / customs w/i 5 min hopped city-bound rail for 40 min walked to metro in 5 min have been in office for 30 min population 7+M annual visitor count 40M have trails w/i 10 min drive have beaches w/i 10 min walk w/i 1 min from ambulance and fire stations w/i 45 min of the gaming capital of this planet and do not get me started on the food :0) yes, believe medical facilities important consideration grew up in town of 20k, as was a college town, very nice, else madness would have been shall stay in office for a good day and de-camp around 3:00 to gather w/ the kids at 3:40ish by door to door bus

To: Snowshoe who wrote (103016)	10/2/2013 8:42:06 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217654

just cleared from out-tray On Oct 3, 2013, at 7:28 AM, J wrote: Do not worry M about the unplayable debt for it is beyond this side of worry. In the mean time they discovered a cave near Chongjin that sports its own weather system. Soon a monetary system would be fitted in. dailymail.co.uk The cave so huge it has its own weather system: Explorers discover a lost world with thick cloud and fogs trapped inside The cave system was discovered in the Chongquing province of China by a team of cavers and photographers Caver Robbie Shone, from Manchester, said a few of the caves had previously been used by nitrate miners but had not been properly explored The network, which includes 'cloud Ladder Hall' measuring around 51,000 metres squared, has water sources and vegetation of the floor By Sarah Griffiths PUBLISHED: 11:08 GMT, 2 October 2013 \| UPDATED: 13:44 GMT, 2 October 2013 Adventurers have stumbled across a cave so enormous that it has its own weather system, complete with wispy clouds and lingering fog inside vast caverns. A team of expert cavers and photographers have been exploring the vast cave system in the Chongquing province of China and have taken the first-ever photographs of the natural wonder. They were amazed to discover the entrance to the hidden Er Wang Dong cave system and were stunned when they managed to climb inside to see a space so large that it can contain a cloud. Scroll down for video The view from a small window in the wall of the vast Niubizi Tian Keng in the Er Wang Dong cave system, where clouds form inside the huge spaces. Three tiny explorers can be seen negotiating the heavily vegetated floor An intrepid cave explorer ascends a rope hanging from the Niubizi Tian Keng. This photograph is one of the first-ever images taken of one of a cave so large it has its own weather system Photographer and caver Robbie Shone, from Manchester, was part of a team of 15 explorers on a month-long expedition that discovered the hidden system. 'A few of the caves had previously been used by nitrate miners, at the areas close to the entrance, but had never been properly explored before,' he said. 'All the major passageways were deep underground and had never seen light before. Exploring Chinese caves so big that they have own weather Explorer Duncan Collis (pictured) climbs a thin rope up to a small ledge overlooking the vast floor surface of Niubizi Tian Keng in the Er Wang Dong cave system. A team of expert cavers have been exploring the caves in the Chongquing province of China The tranquil rural village of Ranjiagou falls nearby the hidden natural wonder is pictured left, while an intrepid caver stands on the central ridge overlooking the cathedral-like Cloud Ladder Hall, where fog conceals the roof hundreds of metres above (right) American speleologist Erin Lynch struggles to pull her way across a raging torrent of white water, which is the main river in Quankou Dong. One of the explorers said they had to be aware of high water levels inside the caves, especially when it rained heavily on the surface 'It is always very special, knowing that you are the first to step foot into a cave or somewhere where nobody had previously seen, not knowing what you might find and discover. 'Where else on Earth can still hold secrets and mysteries of discovery? That's what I love so much about exploring. Mr Shones was particularly excited about the cave network's interior weather system. The spectacular beddings in the roof of Quankou. Photographer and caver Robbie Shone, from Manchester, was part of a team of 15 explorers on a month-long expedition who stumbled across the natural wonder The underground camp in Sang Wang Dong is cosy and warm, according to the cavers. Hot food and drink recharge weary and tired explorers who sleep in either suspended hammocks or on roll mats on the floor, before venturing out into the vast surroundings American speleologist Erin Lynch peers down over her shoulder into a giant void of cloud.The floor is over 240m below and although it cant be seen due to the thick cloud that lingers around her, the echo that reverberates several seconds later reminds her of the volume of empty space and her lofty location 'I had never seen anything quite like the inside cloud ladder before,' he said. 'Thick cloud and fogs hangs in the upper half of the cave, where it gets trapped and unable to escape through the small passage in the roof, 250m above the ground. 'It reminded me of being in an abandoned slate quarrying North Wales in bad weather. The cave system discovered is not the only one with clouds inside, as humidity rises inside the caverns into colder air to form clouds inside the giant, enclosed spaces. Large stalagmites at the foot of a giant ascending ramp to another level of development in San Wang Dong create a spectacle mid-way through a section of cave called Crusty Duvets A giant calcite stalactite boss, dwarfs team member Matt Ryan as he looks up at the giant geological feature The network, includes 'Cloud Ladder Hall' which itself measures around 51,000 metres squared, while there are rivers and vegetation on the floor of some of its huge caverns. 'Most caves are either accessed by large walking entrance, some require a long deep swim, other may be very vertical in nature where you need ropes to abseil down the walls deep into the caves. 'We had to be aware of high water levels inside the caves, especially when it rained heavily on the surface. 'The drainage catchment to these caves is massive and soon the caves can be extremely dangerous and impassable,' he added. Duncan Collis and Erin Lynch walk through a section of cave in San Wang Dong called The Sea of Tranquility. Here remains of old Nitrate mining cover the floor in forms of harths - pits and unwanted spoil. One team member said it reminded him of being in an abandoned slate quarrying North Wales in bad weather An explorer scales the rope up a vertical section of cave known as a pit in Xinu Attic Crystal clear pools and slow moving streams make it easier to explore Quankou Dongs main river passage in the huge network of caves that have not welcomed visitors in years Share or comment on this article On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:27 PM, M wrote: Looks like the masses are finally waking up and figuring out the US cannot pay its debts. Even Cher now knows! twitchy.com (But she hasn't figured out that the Euro is close to bust as well)..... <g> M