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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)	10/4/2013 2:20:34 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 224769

"But he enrolled in a gold Kaiser Permanente plan on the exchange that has no deductible and "good" co-pays. It includes dental benefits and an annual eye exam -- all for about $270 a month. " bullshit

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)

10/4/2013 2:24:02 PM

From: longnshort

Respond to of 224769

if you call congress today all the repubs phones work all the dems have shut their's off, what a bunch of babies. there are no adults in the democrat party

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)	10/4/2013 2:53:33 PM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By John TideGlider Respond to of 224769

From the same article (did you run out of ink, or are you being a scummy hypocrite posting ONLY what you like to see? You are DISGUSTING!) "But for Deb Hornbacher, 58, the high deductibles are just too much for her and her husband. While she's enrolled in her employer's plan, the Colorado couple can't afford to extend the coverage to her husband, a self-employed carpenter. So she was hoping to sign them both up for a plan on the exchange if they qualify for a federal subsidy. She found a bronze-level plan for roughly $357 a month, after their subsidy, which they could swing. But it comes with a $12,600 family deductible. (If they don't qualify for a subsidy, they would pay nearly $1,275 on the exchange for that policy.)"

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)	10/4/2013 3:04:22 PM
From: longnshort	4 Recommendations Recommended By locogringo rayrohn TideGlider Wayners Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224769

OBAMACARE FACEBOOK ERUPTS WITH CITIZEN STICKER SHOCK On Thursday, the government's official Obamacare Facebook page was riddled with people expressing sticker shock over the government's high cost premiums after struggling for hours to wade through the technical failures vexing Obamacare exchanges all across the country. "I am so disappointed," wrote one woman. "These prices are outrageous and there are huge deductibles. No one can afford this!" The comment received 169 "likes." "There is NO WAY I can afford it," said one commenter after using the Kaiser Subsidy Calculator. "Heck right now I couldn't afford an extra 10$ [sic] a month...and oh apparently I make to [sic] much at 8.55/hour to get subsidies." Another person shared a link found on the federal government's main Obamacare page listing premium estimates for small business employers: The information is not very complete as I don't see anything about deductible or other detailed info, but it does given an actual price as to the "Premium." It is VERY SCARY!! For example, my insurance plan right now for my spouse and I costs $545 a month with 100% coverage after my $2500 deductible. We are both 32 years old. When I looked at this site for 80% coverage it says it will be $954.78 a month!!!! So compare my old Plan: 100% coverage for $545 a month To New Plan: 80% Coverage for $945 a month. This is only only an estimate but it is VERY Scary for me to see this kind of increase in rates and reduction in benefits! A single mother of two said she is in school and working full-time while living "75% below the poverty level." She said she was shocked to learn she did not qualify for a healthcare subsidy. "Are you F'ing kidding me????" she wrote on the government's Obamacare Facebook page. "Where the HELL am I supposed to get $3,000 more a year to pay for this 'bronze' health insurance plan!?!??? And I DO NOT EVEN WANT INSURANCE to begin with!! This is frightening," she wrote. Amid scores of comments expressing frustration with technical failures, one woman said she is "just amazed you could even get to the point of seeing pricing" and that she had been trying to access the system for three days to no avail. Obamacare sticker shock will not affect millions of low-income Americans; a New York Times analysis published on Wednesday found that Obamacare "will leave out two-thirds of the poor blacks and single mothers and more than half of the low-wage workers who do not have insurance, the very kinds of people that the program was intended to help." Obamacare will cost taxpayers an estimated $2.6 trillion over the next 10 years.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)	10/4/2013 3:12:29 PM
From: longnshort	3 Recommendations Recommended By locogringo TideGlider Woody_Nickels Respond to of 224769

look how nasty Obama and his people have been during the shutdown. Park ranger has said they were ordered by obama to be as mean as you can to the people. image if his healthcare takes total control, what will these evil people do to citizens then. god help us

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (160172)	10/4/2013 3:14:52 PM
From: locogringo	2 Recommendations Recommended By John TideGlider Respond to of 224769

DEAD CAN SIGN UP IN KENTUCKY... (why not......they can vote for democrats there) HACKED! Healthcare Website Now Selling NFL Jerseys, Ugg Boots, Armani Fragrances... Are they running short of cash, kenny_troll? Makes you feel so secure with your private information, right kenny?