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To: koan who wrote (54728)10/8/2013 12:45:00 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 85487
 
FDR "saving" people




To: koan who wrote (54728)10/8/2013 3:08:03 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 85487
 
The facts that I posted about him are history, and not even revisionist history (which BTW doesn't mean false). They have known as true since they happened in the first place. Some of the actions I posted about even led to supreme court cases for example when he tried to outlaw discounting, and some poultry sellers resisted, see en.wikipedia.org . FDR lost btw.

As for destroying food when people where hungry

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Roosevelt secured passage of the Agricultural Adjustment Act, which levied a new tax on agricultural processors and used the revenue to supervise the wholesale destruction of valuable crops and cattle. Federal agents oversaw the ugly spectacle of perfectly good fields of cotton, wheat and corn being plowed under (the mules had to be convinced to trample the crops; they had been trained, of course, to walk between the rows). Healthy cattle, sheep and pigs were slaughtered and buried in mass graves. Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace personally gave the order to slaughter 6 million baby pigs before they grew to full size. The administration also paid farmers for the first time for not working at all. Even if the AAA had helped farmers by curtailing supplies and raising prices, it could have done so only by hurting millions of others who had to pay those prices or make do with less to eat.

mackinac.org

The New Deal paid farmers to destroy food when millions were hungry. FDR promoted higher food prices by paying farmers to plow under some 10 million acres of crops and destroy some 6 million farm animals. The food destruction program mainly enriched big farmers, since benefits were paid on a per acre basis. This policy related farm programs meant the approximately 100 million American consumers had to pay more for food.

townhall.com

FDR promoted the large-scale destruction of food when millions were hungry, by paying farmers to plow under some 10 million acres of crops and slaughter and discard some 6 million farm animals. This program enriched big farmers who had more food to destroy than small farmers. Black tenant farmers, who depended on work, were devastated.

lewrockwell.com

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On another point -

"-FDR’s FLSA bill (Fair Labor and Standards Act- June 14th, 1938) put more than 40,000 African Americans out of work upon its passing6. And most of FDR’s other sweetheart deals for the various unions of the country similarly put blacks out of work because most of these unions worked exclusively to keep blacks out of their work force to support the white worker."

brianzins.com

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And as for "democracy", FDR defrauded democracy. When he first ran for president, he (rightly) blasted Hoover for big government polices. FDR ran on lower taxes, lower spending, sound money, lower tariffs, and a smaller burocracy. The only way he followed through on his smaller government promises was getting prohibition repealed (one of his best decisions). On just about everything else he turned a 180 once he got in to office.



To: koan who wrote (54728)10/8/2013 8:37:14 PM
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FDR saved the people. Anything else is revisionist history.
FDR lengthened and deepened the depression and facilitated WWII. Anything else is revisionist history.