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To: koan who wrote (54731)10/8/2013 11:00:51 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie1 Recommendation

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gamesmistress

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Well, aren't they being protected?


Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Many are being violated on a regular basis. Gun control laws are a blatant violation. Freedom of speech is now routinely violated. Unlawful searches and seizures are very common. (the recent NSA flap is just one of many), In fact, the vast majority of laws that are passed by the federal government violate the ninth and tenth amendments of the US Constitution. This implies many more rights being violated. Taking someone's wages to finance another person's activities is a violation of their rights (it's called stealing).

You are mincing words. There can be a zillion different types of democracy and republics.
I didn't mince any words. There may be a zillion different types, but we are Constitutional Republic, not a democracy
But it all boils down to the people deciding the type of society they want.

I certainly don't want the type of society that you want. And in fact, among the 330M people in the U.S., there are probably 330M different views on what society should be. One of the great things about this country was that it was founded on the idea of letting people make the decisions for themselves. The federal government was to provide the general framework in which the states and the people would operate. It was not put in place to solve every problem across the spectrum. If you want to live in a communal society, do it!!! you can create your own Ashram in Oregon and you and your buddies can all pool your funds and share all of your assets (and women!) and live in peace, love and harmony. Nothing is stopping your from doing this. However, the U.S. Constitution does stop you from forcing me to live on your commune.

People can even change the constitution!
You can certainly try. Until then, you are going to have a tough time getting me to live on your commune.

So democracy rules!


There is not one example of a successful democracy running today.



To: koan who wrote (54731)10/8/2013 2:09:04 PM
From: average joe1 Recommendation

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FJB

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People can even change the constitution!
People can even form a militia to protect the constitution!